• Washington Protests

    From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to All on Thu Jan 7 08:14:53 2021
    So how does everyone feel about the Capital takeover? I think we live in a great country where we all can be heard. Even if it is illegal.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to HusTler on Thu Jan 7 10:19:25 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: HusTler to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 08:14 am

    So how does everyone feel about the Capital takeover? I think we live in a great country where we all can be heard. Even if it is illegal.

    I'm not surprised. I'm disappointed. I'm sad. I'm upset. I'm exasperated.

    But I'm not surprised by it. It was inevitable. When someone spouts lies and unfounded accusations about the core of our democratic institution, and people believe them, something like this was bound to happen.

    I'm just glad that most of our legislators were able to pull their fingers out of their collective asses and do what needed to be done.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to HusTler on Thu Jan 7 10:00:47 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: HusTler to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 08:14 am

    So how does everyone feel about the Capital takeover? I think we live in a great country where we all can be heard. Even if it is illegal.

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    Let's see... there are States in which votes are still in dispute, the relevant chambers take the disputed votes in without objection, and the whole deal is sealed with less than 10 dead?

    The Capitol take over is to a deserved response what a slung shot is to an M-14.



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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Arelor on Thu Jan 7 12:29:51 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Arelor to HusTler on Thu Jan 07 2021 10:00 am

    Let's see... there are States in which votes are still in dispute,

    There isn't any dispute. Some don't like the result.

    the relevant chambers take the disputed votes in without objection, and the whole deal is sealed with less than 10 dead?

    That's the way democracy works, the person with the most votes wins.

    No reason for any deaths at all.

    Ttyl :-),
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Al on Thu Jan 7 16:09:43 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Al to Arelor on Thu Jan 07 2021 12:29 pm

    Let's see... there are States in which votes are still in dispute,

    There isn't any dispute. Some don't like the result.

    There isn't much of a dispute _now_ but there was certainly a bunch of people with decission making power that thought the electoral process in some of the States were questionable at best.

    It does not help that claims laid through the judicial system (famously the Texan one) were rejected for what ammounts to a form/technicality issue rather than a lack of evidence issue.

    The whole deal is specially bleeding because what people was expecting Pence to do was to defer the acceptance of the questionable votes a number of day for proper investigation to ensue. No reject them outright or anything. Given that time ran against the Republicans in general, I don¤ t think it was an unreasonable expectation.

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Arelor on Fri Jan 8 00:30:14 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Arelor to Al on Thu Jan 07 2021 04:09 pm

    There isn't any dispute. Some don't like the result.

    There isn't much of a dispute _now_ but there was certainly a bunch of people with decission making power that thought the electoral process in some of the States were questionable at best.

    Elections are run by states. If someone has a problem with a states way of running an election they need to bring that up before an election, not after.

    It does not help that claims laid through the judicial system (famously the Texan one) were rejected for what ammounts to a form/technicality issue rather than a lack of evidence issue.

    The Texan one was a farce. Texas has no standing in the way other states run their elections. Texas's only problem with other states elections was that they didn't elect the person they did. That is not grounds for a law suit.

    The whole deal is specially bleeding because what people was expecting Pence to do was to defer the acceptance of the questionable votes a number of day for proper investigation to ensue. No reject them outright or anything. Given that time ran against the Republicans in general, I donñ t think it was an unreasonable expectation.

    Some had the idea of putting forth a different slate of electors than what the voters selected. It's no surprise to me that congress wasn't going along with any of that.

    Congress does this after every election. Each state had previously certified their election and simply gave that to congress. It's ceremonial. There is nothing to defer, that states already certified their elections.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to DaiTengu on Fri Jan 8 08:03:36 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: DaiTengu to HusTler on Thu Jan 07 2021 10:19 am

    So how does everyone feel about the Capital takeover? I think we live in
    a great country where we all can be heard. Even if it is illegal.

    But I'm not surprised by it. It was inevitable. When someone spouts lies an unfounded accusations about the core of our democratic institution, and peop believe them, something like this was bound to happen.

    I am disappointed and angry with Donald Trump. I agree that he should be removed from office. Even if there is only 12 days left. I also believe he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Al on Fri Jan 8 08:12:03 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Al to Arelor on Thu Jan 07 2021 12:29 pm

    That's the way democracy works, the person with the most votes wins.


    That's only partially true. The popular vote does not win elections. Electoral votes win elections. Sad but true.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to All on Fri Jan 8 08:22:08 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Al to Arelor on Fri Jan 08 2021 12:30 am

    There isn't any dispute. Some don't like the result.

    A few thousand Americans are disbuting the elctions. That was made clear storming the white house.

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to HusTler on Fri Jan 8 07:54:23 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: HusTler to Al on Fri Jan 08 2021 08:12 am

    That's only partially true. The popular vote does not win elections. Electoral votes win elections. Sad but true.

    That's right. In the USA you need the most electoral college votes. That person may or may not have the most votes overall.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to HusTler on Fri Jan 8 08:02:53 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: HusTler to All on Fri Jan 08 2021 08:22 am

    There isn't any dispute. Some don't like the result.

    A few thousand Americans are disbuting the elctions. That was made clear storming the white house.

    I don't think there is any more dispute. Some would prefer the election turned out differently and continue to speak conspiracy theories. Those theories were never and will never be true.

    Those protesters at the capitol were invited there by Trump and supported by various far-right organizations.

    Ttyl :-),
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to HusTler on Fri Jan 8 10:46:04 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: HusTler to DaiTengu on Fri Jan 08 2021 08:03 am

    Re: Washington Protests
    By: DaiTengu to HusTler on Thu Jan 07 2021 10:19 am

    So how does everyone feel about the Capital takeover? I think we live i a great country where we all can be heard. Even if it is illegal.

    But I'm not surprised by it. It was inevitable. When someone spouts lies unfounded accusations about the core of our democratic institution, and p believe them, something like this was bound to happen.

    I am disappointed and angry with Donald Trump. I agree that he should be removed from office. Even if there is only 12 days left. I also believe he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.


    Crimes such as...?

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to HusTler on Fri Jan 8 13:44:00 2021
    HusTler wrote to Al <=-

    That's the way democracy works, the person with the most votes wins.

    That's only partially true. The popular vote does not win
    elections. Electoral votes win elections. Sad but true.

    There's nothing "sad" about it.

    Things were set up that way for very good reasons.



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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Gamgee on Fri Jan 8 15:30:03 2021
    Re: Re: Washington Protests
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Fri Jan 08 2021 01:44 pm

    That's the way democracy works, the person with the most votes wins.

    That's only partially true. The popular vote does not win
    elections. Electoral votes win elections. Sad but true.

    There's nothing "sad" about it.

    Things were set up that way for very good reasons.

    Right, good reasons like "We have a bunch of slaves in our state, and therefore should get more votes based on the population of those slaves"

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HUSTLER on Fri Jan 8 17:14:00 2021
    I am disappointed and angry with Donald Trump. I agree that he should be remove
    d from office. Even if there is only 12 days left. I also believe he should be >harged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.

    At this point I would worry that removing him would only make things worse rather than better.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HUSTLER on Fri Jan 8 17:15:00 2021
    There isn't any dispute. Some don't like the result.

    A few thousand Americans are disbuting the elctions. That was made clear stor ming the white house.

    Al is a Canadian. He doesn't want the US disputing the election because he wants Trump to come and make British Columbia Great Again.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Fri Jan 8 17:16:00 2021
    That's only partially true. The popular vote does not win
    elections. Electoral votes win elections. Sad but true.

    There's nothing "sad" about it.

    Things were set up that way for very good reasons.

    Agreed.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to DaiTengu on Fri Jan 8 22:11:00 2021
    DaiTengu wrote to Gamgee <=-

    That's only partially true. The popular vote does not win
    elections. Electoral votes win elections. Sad but true.

    There's nothing "sad" about it.
    Things were set up that way for very good reasons.

    Right, good reasons like "We have a bunch of slaves in our
    state, and therefore should get more votes based on the
    population of those slaves"

    Wrong. Typical Lib misconception.

    It's purpose is to guarantee that even small and less-populated states
    have at least *some* say in choosing a President.

    See if your local community college has a remedial civics class that
    you could take to help you understand.



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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Dumas Walker on Fri Jan 8 22:26:14 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Dumas Walker to HUSTLER on Fri Jan 08 2021 05:15 pm

    Al is a Canadian. He doesn't want the US disputing the election

    What you have now is not a dispute, it is sedition.

    because he wants Trump to come and make British Columbia Great Again.

    British Columbia is a great place, there is no need to make it great again.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Arelor on Fri Jan 8 22:12:41 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Arelor to HusTler on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:46 am

    he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.


    Crimes such as...?

    Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Al on Sat Jan 9 04:48:07 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Al to Dumas Walker on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:26 pm

    Al is a Canadian. He doesn't want the US disputing the election

    What you have now is not a dispute, it is sedition.

    Sedition was when Catalonia declared itself independent without running a clean referendum.

    This is protesting the official results, which is something that has been done by the left from 2016 in a much more destructive manner.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to HusTler on Sat Jan 9 04:49:10 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: HusTler to Arelor on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:12 pm

    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Arelor to HusTler on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:46 am

    he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.


    Crimes such as...?

    Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.


    I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been showing me is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt he way through, including messages such as "Cooperate with law enforcers" et all.

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Arelor on Sat Jan 9 07:48:11 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Arelor to Al on Sat Jan 09 2021 04:48 am

    Sedition was when Catalonia declared itself independent without running a clean referendum.

    I'm not sure what you speak of regarding Catalonia.

    This is protesting the official results,

    What happened at the capitol was a seditious insurrection.

    which is something that has been done by the left from 2016 in a much more destructive manner.

    Uh huh. Can you give me an example?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Al on Sat Jan 9 14:25:29 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Al to Arelor on Sat Jan 09 2021 07:48 am

    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Arelor to Al on Sat Jan 09 2021 04:48 am

    Sedition was when Catalonia declared itself independent without running clean referendum.

    I'm not sure what you speak of regarding Catalonia.

    This is protesting the official results,

    What happened at the capitol was a seditious insurrection.

    which is something that has been done by the left from 2016 in a much m destructive manner.

    Uh huh. Can you give me an example?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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    The Catalonian authorities ran a referendum asking the population whether they wanted Catalonia to be independent from Spain, which had no voter accountability whatsoever (ie you could vote at three voting tables since nobody was ensuring people voted just once), and lacked impartial observers. They declared 90% of the population wanted independence (which is too high a number to be beliveable) and got the central gov invoke emergency powers and void the autonomic government. There is more to it, but that is the short story.

    For the record, I want a clear fair referendum to be carried out on that matter, because if it is shown they want to go, it is good riddance; if they show they want to stay, separatist politicians will be shown to be lacking support (which would be delightful too). What we got was a circus instead.

    I think taking a square and proclaiming it is no longer part of America is more insurrective than protesting because you think Pence is a betrayer and there has not been proper accountability in the elections. For that matter, all the shitshow with Black Panthers waving rifles in Atlanta and antifas putting people on their knees and forcing them to promise they were not going to vote for Trump is everybit as antidemocratic as protesting election results - if the elections are actually fair.

    Frankly, just the fact there were terror troops prowling around and beating everybody who showed the wrong political colors casts a very dubious shadow on the whole electoral process even if you don't take into account claims about ballot manipulation at all.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to AL on Sat Jan 9 13:48:00 2021
    Al is a Canadian. He doesn't want the US disputing the election

    What you have now is not a dispute, it is sedition.

    That is OK. Biden can do like 2 of the last 3 Democrats before him and pardon/commute any sedition charges. Any domestic terrorism charges, too.
    That is what the Democrat Presidents are best at...


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DAITENGU on Sat Jan 9 14:09:00 2021
    Right, good reasons like "We have a bunch of slaves in our state, and therefore
    should get more votes based on the population of those slaves"

    GD it, for the last time that isn't why we have an electoral college. The 3/5ths rule (what you are talking about) came into play BECAUSE we had an electoral college. NOT the other way around.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Sat Jan 9 14:14:00 2021
    This is protesting the official results, which is something that has been done >by the left from 2016 in a much more destructive manner.

    Al doesn't believe in antifa or left-wing non-peaceful protesters. Those cities set fire to themselves. Portland's mayor is imagining it all.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Sat Jan 9 14:15:00 2021
    I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been showing me >is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt he way through, >including messages such as "Cooperate with law enforcers" et all.

    Yes, it is weird that he starts doing that and they suddenly/finally cut
    him off. It does not make sense.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Arelor on Sat Jan 9 16:49:00 2021
    Arelor wrote to HusTler <=-

    Crimes such as...?

    Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.


    I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been showing me is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt
    he way through, including messages such as "Cooperate with law
    enforcers" et all.

    It was right after that message from Trump that all the Leftie social media companies banned Trump
    from their sites.

    You'd almost think that it was a coordinated effort to suppress that message.

    But that's impossible. The Social Media companies don't coordinate things like that - according to their
    testimony to Congress.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Sat Jan 9 16:17:36 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: HusTler to Arelor on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:12 pm

    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Arelor to HusTler on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:46 am

    he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.


    Crimes such as...?

    Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.

    i didnt see him inciting a riot.
    he said we're going to walk down to the capital and cheer on our brave senators and congress men and women and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. because you will never take back our country with weakness, you have to show strength and be strong.

    then when it was going on i saw posts of him saying to be peaceful and respect the police.

    he may have incited a protest, which is not illegal.

    trump did nothing wrong in this case.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Jan 9 16:23:41 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Sat Jan 09 2021 02:15 pm

    I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been
    showing me is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt
    he way through, including messages such as "Cooperate with law
    enforcers" et all.

    Yes, it is weird that he starts doing that and they suddenly/finally cut him off. It does not make sense.


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Arelor on Sat Jan 9 14:35:31 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Arelor to Al on Sat Jan 09 2021 02:25 pm

    I'm not sure what you speak of regarding Catalonia.

    This is protesting the official results,

    OK, if we spoke about Catalonia for some time it's possible I could be up to speed in some way, but as it is I simply can't speak in any real way about that situation.

    What happened at the capitol was a seditious insurrection.

    which is something that has been done by the left from 2016 in a
    much m destructive manner.

    Uh huh. Can you give me an example?

    I think taking a square and proclaiming it is no longer part of America is more insurrective than protesting because you think Pence is a betrayer and there has not been proper accountability in the elections.

    There was a free and fair election.

    For that matter, all the shitshow with Black Panthers waving rifles in Atlanta and antifas putting people on their knees and forcing them to promise they were not going to vote for Trump is everybit as antidemocratic as protesting election results - if the elections are actually fair.

    I only ever heard this story, "antifas putting people on their knee's" from you. I have never heard/read/seen this here.

    Frankly, just the fact there were terror troops prowling around and beating everybody who showed the wrong political colors casts a very dubious shadow on the whole electoral process even if you don't take into account claims about ballot manipulation at all.

    There are no terror troops prowling around and beating everybody.

    Their is no argument above that..

    which is something that has been done by the left from 2016 in a
    much m destructive manner.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Al on Sat Jan 9 20:00:39 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Al to Arelor on Sat Jan 09 2021 02:35 pm

    There are no terror troops prowling around and beating everybody.

    Their is no argument above that..

    I have no vid playing capabilities in this system so I can't share the videos of the messups I was refering to.

    However, a 30 seconds search turns a whole lot of stuff like:

    Assault on the Hatfield Federal Courhouse by BLM and friends: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/07/25/portland-riots-read-out-july-25

    Arsonism at Justice Center in Portland: https://www.justice.gov/usao-or/pr/portland-man-charged-may-29-2020-arson-justi ce-center

    This picture taken about 7 months ago in Atlanta shows that Black Panther's idea of political agreement involves superior firepower: https://i.redd.it/4mzso8giqe351.jpg

    There are also lots of news of people beaten or harassed because they wear the wrong colors but the list is too extensive (and repetitive) to reproduce.

    If you want to hear of specific acts of insubordination, I think one of the most graphic is NYSE's refusal to go through the Executive Order which would delist Chinesse firms affiliated with Chinesse military activities. This order was emitted in Novembre before the Jan 6 was a thing and skipping it is an obvious case of "Fuck you, I don't recognize your authority."

    https://www.axios.com/nyse-wont-delist-chinese-companies-executive-order-a79cd8 41-dc4d-4aa7-b864-0d2ba7bbcbf7.html


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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Arelor on Sun Jan 10 08:06:28 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Arelor to HusTler on Sat Jan 09 2021 04:49 am

    he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.


    Crimes such as...?

    Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.


    I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been showing is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt he way through, including messages such as "Cooperate with law enforcers" et all.

    Social Media? Just watch any American news channel. There's a live

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Arelor on Sun Jan 10 08:08:00 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Arelor to HusTler on Sat Jan 09 2021 04:49 am

    he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.


    Crimes such as...?

    Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.


    I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been showing is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt he way through, including messages such as "Cooperate with law enforcers" et all.

    Social Media? Just watch any American news channel. There's a live video of what Trump told a crowd at a rally that day. Decide for yourself.

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Arelor on Sun Jan 10 08:29:28 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Arelor to Al on Sat Jan 09 2021 08:00 pm

    There are no terror troops prowling around and beating everybody.

    Assault on the Hatfield Federal Courhouse by BLM and friends: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/07/25/portland-riots-read-out-july-25

    Arsonism at Justice Center in Portland: https://www.justice.gov/usao-or/pr/portland-man-charged-may-29-2020-arson- justice-center

    Yes, I have no doubt there are troubles in Portland. I don't know exactly what it's all about there but it pre-dates the George Floyd murder and the recent BLM protests, by a decade or so.

    This picture taken about 7 months ago in Atlanta shows that Black Panther's idea of political agreement involves superior firepower: https://i.redd.it/4mzso8giqe351.jpg

    I have not heard about the black panthers in decades! But yes, this is a real thing in the US. In many states you can carry a loaded weapon as long as it is not concealed. That's not reserved for white people.

    The black panthers from to 60's to 80's were similar to today's BLM movement, although it's not the same thing. The more things change the more they stay the same.

    There are also lots of news of people beaten or harassed because they wear the wrong colors but the list is too extensive (and repetitive) to reproduce.

    This is not a BLM thing. Wear the wrong colors in certain areas of certain cities and you can find yourself in a world of hurt.

    There have been clashes between Trump supporters and BLM supporters. This is a new phenomenon.

    If you want to hear of specific acts of insubordination, I think one of the most graphic is NYSE's refusal to go through the Executive Order which would delist Chinesse firms affiliated with Chinesse military activities. This order was emitted in Novembre before the Jan 6 was a thing and skipping it is an obvious case of "Fuck you, I don't recognize your authority."

    That is a whole different matter. If the NYSE want to go against an executive order there will be consequences, if the white house choses to do so.

    It could be the NYSE believes this executive order will not be enforced by the incoming white house.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Sun Jan 10 14:24:31 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: HusTler to Arelor on Sun Jan 10 2021 08:08 am

    he way through, including messages such as "Cooperate with law
    enforcers" et all.

    Social Media? Just watch any American news channel. There's a live video of what Trump told a crowd at a rally that day. Decide for yourself.

    yeah he didnt tell them to riot.
    people are so stupid. fighting for your rights doesnt mean literally fighting.

    and when trump told everyone to be peaceful that is when social media censored him and banned his accounts. that is exactly when.

    this world is full of stupid people. this virus needs to mutate and kill more people off. too many dumb ones.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sun Jan 10 10:40:00 2021
    that's exactly what happened, too.
    they want him out in disgrace.

    That much is quite obvious.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DR. WHAT on Sun Jan 10 12:50:00 2021
    You'd almost think that it was a coordinated effort to suppress that message.

    But that's impossible. The Social Media companies don't coordinate things lik
    that - according to their
    testimony to Congress.

    They flat out lied.


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  • From jimmylogan@VERT/OTHETA to HusTler on Sun Jan 10 15:00:00 2021
    HusTler wrote to Arelor <=-

    he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.


    Crimes such as...?

    Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.


    I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been showing is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt he way through, including messages such as "Cooperate with law enforcers" et all.

    Social Media? Just watch any American news channel. There's a live

    American news channel? There's a trap waiting...






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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Dumas Walker on Mon Jan 11 09:36:00 2021
    Dumas Walker wrote to DR. WHAT <=-

    You'd almost think that it was a coordinated effort to suppress that
    message.

    But that's impossible. The Social Media companies don't coordinate things
    lik
    that - according to their
    testimony to Congress.

    They flat out lied.

    Of course they did. Lefties don't believe telling a lie is wrong.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Dumas Walker on Mon Jan 11 10:04:00 2021
    Dumas Walker wrote to DAITENGU <=-

    GD it, for the last time that isn't why we have an electoral college.
    The 3/5ths rule (what you are talking about) came into play BECAUSE we
    had an electoral college. NOT the other way around.

    Lefties ignore any facts that don't jive with the false Narrative they believe in.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Dumas Walker on Mon Jan 11 10:07:00 2021
    Dumas Walker wrote to ARELOR <=-

    I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been showing me
    is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt he way through,
    including messages such as "Cooperate with law enforcers" et all.

    Yes, it is weird that he starts doing that and they suddenly/finally
    cut him off. It does not make sense.

    It makes perfect sense if they want to suppress the facts.


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Dr. What on Mon Jan 11 11:35:09 2021
    Re: Re: Washington Protests
    By: Dr. What to Dumas Walker on Mon Jan 11 2021 10:07 am

    It makes perfect sense if they want to suppress the facts.

    They wanted to stop Donald Trump's endless lies and misinformation, and that is what they did.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Dumas Walker on Mon Jan 11 15:41:00 2021
    Dumas Walker wrote to HUSTLER <=-

    I am disappointed and angry with Donald Trump. I agree that he should be remove

    d from office. Even if there is only 12 days left. I also believe he should
    e
    harged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.

    At this point I would worry that removing him would only make things
    worse rather than better.

    I know too many people that would think that is the "last straw". Glad I live up in the hills "locked and loaded".




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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Al on Mon Jan 11 15:43:00 2021
    Al wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Dumas Walker to HUSTLER on Fri Jan 08 2021 05:15 pm

    Al is a Canadian. He doesn't want the US disputing the election

    What you have now is not a dispute, it is sedition.

    because he wants Trump to come and make British Columbia Great Again.

    British Columbia is a great place, there is no need to make it great again.

    There is no Sedition... Some people did some things.


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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Arelor on Mon Jan 11 15:46:00 2021
    Arelor wrote to HusTler <=-

    Re: Washington Protests
    By: HusTler to Arelor on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:12 pm

    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Arelor to HusTler on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:46 am

    he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.


    Crimes such as...?

    Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.


    I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been showing me is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt
    he way through, including messages such as "Cooperate with law
    enforcers" et all.

    Exactly! That's what I can't figure out about these people saying he started it. All I heard was "protest peacefully". Of course most "haters" have been reading between the lines his whole term....


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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Dumas Walker on Mon Jan 11 15:50:00 2021
    Dumas Walker wrote to ARELOR <=-

    This is protesting the official results, which is something that has been
    one
    by the left from 2016 in a much more destructive manner.

    Al doesn't believe in antifa or left-wing non-peaceful protesters.
    Those cities set fire to themselves. Portland's mayor is imagining it all.

    There's some of those types that have infiltrated from the Bay Area to up here in the hills that claim the same thing. Trying to tell me we are all antifa therefore there is no "Antifa". SMH....




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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to MRO on Mon Jan 11 15:51:00 2021
    MRO wrote to HusTler <=-

    Re: Washington Protests
    By: HusTler to Arelor on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:12 pm

    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Arelor to HusTler on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:46 am

    he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.


    Crimes such as...?

    Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.

    i didnt see him inciting a riot.
    he said we're going to walk down to the capital and cheer on our brave senators and congress men and women and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. because you will never take back
    our country with weakness, you have to show strength and be strong.

    then when it was going on i saw posts of him saying to be peaceful and respect the police.

    he may have incited a protest, which is not illegal.

    trump did nothing wrong in this case.

    EXACTLY!!


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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to HusTler on Mon Jan 11 15:54:00 2021
    HusTler wrote to Arelor <=-

    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Arelor to HusTler on Sat Jan 09 2021 04:49 am

    he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves office.


    Crimes such as...?

    Inciting a Riot. There's a long list but I won't get into that.


    I don't follow social media, but the posts people who does has been showing is that Trump was telling supporters to be well behaved allt he way through, including messages such as "Cooperate with law enforcers" et all.

    Social Media? Just watch any American news channel. There's a live

    I have and he did not incite violence. SMH.....



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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Al on Mon Jan 11 15:56:00 2021
    Al wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Re: Re: Washington Protests
    By: Dr. What to Dumas Walker on Mon Jan 11 2021 10:07 am

    It makes perfect sense if they want to suppress the facts.

    They wanted to stop Donald Trump's endless lies and misinformation, and that is what they did.

    Wrong.... Jeez.... SMH.



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  • From Philthy74@VERT/BUNKERBB to Thumper on Mon Jan 11 22:52:01 2021
    Social Media? Just watch any American news channel. There's a live

    I have and he did not incite violence. SMH.....

    Tell that to the dead woman's family.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Philthy74 on Mon Jan 11 22:30:52 2021
    Re: Re: Washington Protests
    By: Philthy74 to Thumper on Mon Jan 11 2021 10:52 pm

    Social Media? Just watch any American news channel. There's a live

    I have and he did not incite violence. SMH.....

    Tell that to the dead woman's family.


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Thumper on Tue Jan 12 01:59:26 2021
    Re: Re: Washington Protests
    By: Thumper to Al on Mon Jan 11 2021 03:43 pm

    There is no Sedition... Some people did some things.

    Sedition is the incitement of resistance to or insurrection against a lawful authority.

    Donald Trump himself carried out the sedition and his followers carried out an insurrection.

    It's strange to see that in the USA but that is what happened.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Thumper on Tue Jan 12 02:24:15 2021
    Re: Re: Washington Protests
    By: Thumper to Dumas Walker on Mon Jan 11 2021 03:50 pm

    There's some of those types that have infiltrated from the Bay Area to up here in the hills that claim the same thing. Trying to tell me we are all antifa therefore there is no "Antifa". SMH....

    The word antifa is thrown around way too much.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Thumper on Tue Jan 12 02:26:08 2021
    Re: Re: Washington Protests
    By: Thumper to Al on Mon Jan 11 2021 03:56 pm

    They wanted to stop Donald Trump's endless lies and misinformation,
    and that is what they did.

    Wrong.... Jeez.... SMH.

    He was given temporary bans and told to stop or they would become permanent. He didn't stop so now they are permanent.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to THUMPER on Tue Jan 12 19:17:00 2021
    Exactly! That's what I can't figure out about these people saying he started it. All I heard was "protest peacefully". Of course most "haters" have been reading between the lines his whole term....

    Well, it is probably the same damn people who say they've been "protesting peacefully" all Summer... for them that is code for "riot" so they just
    figure that is what everyone means when they say it.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to THUMPER on Tue Jan 12 19:24:00 2021
    There's some of those types that have infiltrated from the Bay Area to up here
    in the hills that claim the same thing. Trying to tell me we are all antifa therefore there is no "Antifa". SMH....

    It is the definition of "fascism" that is different. For me, it is a totalitarian form of government exemplified by pre-WWII Germany, Italy, and Spain (pre and post WWII in their case) with a capitalist, but not
    free-market, economy.

    For "Antifa," fascism = all forms of capitalism


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to PHILTHY74 on Tue Jan 12 19:27:00 2021
    Social Media? Just watch any American news channel. There's a live

    I have and he did not incite violence. SMH.....

    Tell that to the dead woman's family.

    Shot by the cops. If that happened at any of the Summertime "peaceful protests," it would be considered as justification for several nights of looting, burning, and destroying downtown DC.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to AL on Tue Jan 12 19:31:00 2021
    Sedition is the incitement of resistance to or insurrection against a lawful a
    hority.

    Donald Trump himself carried out the sedition and his followers carried out an
    nsurrection.

    It's strange to see that in the USA but that is what happened.

    That is OK. Joe Biden can pardon/commute the sentences of anyone who gets
    in trouble, just like the 3 most recent Democrat Presidents before him.
    That is what they are best at... pardoning/commuting the sentences of
    seditious conspirators and domestic terrorists.


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Dumas Walker on Wed Jan 13 07:09:44 2021
    Re: Re: Washington Protests
    By: Dumas Walker to AL on Tue Jan 12 2021 07:31 pm

    That is OK. Joe Biden can pardon/commute the sentences of anyone who gets in trouble,

    Yes, he can do that. I have confidence that Joe Biden will exercise his pardon power in a better way than the current corrupt president.

    just like the 3 most recent Democrat Presidents before him.
    That is what they are best at... pardoning/commuting the sentences of seditious conspirators and domestic terrorists.

    Seditious conspiracies and domestic terrorists are what you have now under Donald Trump. There may yet be pardons by Donald Trump to get out of it.

    Open your eyes and have a look at Donald Trumps America.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to AL on Wed Jan 13 17:45:00 2021
    That is OK. Joe Biden can pardon/commute the sentences of anyone who gets
    in trouble,

    Yes, he can do that. I have confidence that Joe Biden will exercise his pardon
    ower in a better way than the current corrupt president.

    Only if senility prevents him from remembering he has the power.

    just like the 3 most recent Democrat Presidents before him.
    That is what they are best at... pardoning/commuting the sentences of seditious conspirators and domestic terrorists.

    Seditious conspiracies and domestic terrorists are what you have now under Don
    d Trump. There may yet be pardons by Donald Trump to get out of it.

    Open your eyes and have a look at Donald Trumps America.

    So far, Donald Trump has not pardoned/commuted anyone convicted of
    seditious conspiracy or domestic terrorism. Obama, Clinton, and Carter all three did.

    But I do realize that doing so, and having far larger numbers of pardons/commutations means they were not using it wrong, based on past discussion with you. It is ok for them to do so cause they're D's.


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Dumas Walker on Wed Jan 13 20:09:36 2021
    Re: Re: Washington Protests
    By: Dumas Walker to AL on Wed Jan 13 2021 05:45 pm

    Open your eyes and have a look at Donald Trumps America.

    So far, Donald Trump has not pardoned/commuted anyone convicted of seditious conspiracy or domestic terrorism. Obama, Clinton, and Carter all three did.

    Donald Trump pardoned people in his inner circle, his advisors, for crimes they committed in his service.

    He also pardoned war criminals who murdered unarmed civilians in Iraq.

    That's the problem I have with Donald Trumps pardons.

    But I do realize that doing so, and having far larger numbers of pardons/commutations means they were not using it wrong, based on past discussion with you. It is ok for them to do so cause they're D's.

    We've been down this road before and I'll tell you again. A "D" or an "R" can be corrupt and if they do something "bad" they should be held accountable.

    We just happen to be talking about an "R" at the moment although he used to be a "D".

    I don't think Donald Trump's "R" or "D" status is an issue, but the actions he has taken are.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to AL on Thu Jan 14 14:43:00 2021
    So far, Donald Trump has not pardoned/commuted anyone convicted of seditious conspiracy or domestic terrorism. Obama, Clinton, and Carter al
    three did.

    Donald Trump pardoned people in his inner circle, his advisors, for crimes the
    committed in his service.

    So did Obama (inner circle) and Clinton (inner circle for crimes committed
    in his service).

    He also pardoned war criminals who murdered unarmed civilians in Iraq.

    And that is worse than domestic terrorists who blew up unarmed American civilians on US soil? Clinton and Obama both pardoned/commuted sentences
    for members of a group that did that.

    We've been down this road before and I'll tell you again. A "D" or an "R" can
    corrupt and if they do something "bad" they should be held accountable.

    And yet it seems to. Paraphrasing -- "Trump has abused his
    pardon/commutation power more than any President before him" ignores how
    much, much more often that his predecessors used that power and what they
    used it for. Only things I can figure are it is because he is an "R", you
    have something against him personally, or you have a very short attention
    span.


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Dumas Walker on Thu Jan 14 16:23:03 2021
    Re: Re: Washington Protests
    By: Dumas Walker to AL on Thu Jan 14 2021 02:43 pm

    So did Obama (inner circle) and Clinton (inner circle for crimes committed in his service).

    I am not aware of Obama or Clinton pardoning any staffers, aids or advisors.

    Who were they and what were their crimes committed in his service?

    He also pardoned war criminals who murdered unarmed civilians in Iraq.

    And that is worse than domestic terrorists who blew up unarmed American civilians on US soil? Clinton and Obama both pardoned/commuted sentences for members of a group that did that.

    I would say it is. The USA has, over the years spent considerable time and resources litigating war crimes. Why any president would consider a pardon for a war criminal is beyond me.

    House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler Condemned Donald Trumps pardon of Michael Flynn. Flynn was the second Trump ally to be absolved of legal repercussions linked to their conduct surrounding the Russia investigation.

    And yet it seems to. Paraphrasing -- "Trump has abused his pardon/commutation power more than any President before him" ignores how much, much more often that his predecessors used that power and what they used it for. Only things I can figure are it is because he is an "R", you have something against him personally, or you have a very short attention span.

    Obama used his pardon powers more. Largely because he encouraged federal prisoners to apply for commutation under the Clemency Initiative.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Fri Jan 15 05:05:39 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: HusTler to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 08:14 am

    So how does everyone feel about the Capital takeover? I think we live in a great country where we all can be heard. Even if it is illegal.

    |03 HusTler

    i think it made a great statement. it's too bad some people got hurt.
    i also see that some liberals were involved in the violence.

    someone should have taken a shot on nancy's desk.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Fri Jan 15 05:06:41 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: HusTler to All on Fri Jan 08 2021 08:22 am

    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Al to Arelor on Fri Jan 08 2021 12:30 am

    There isn't any dispute. Some don't like the result.

    A few thousand Americans are disbuting the elctions. That was made clear storming the white house.


    i dispute the election. i didnt go storm the whitehouse, though.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Fri Jan 15 05:08:12 2021
    Re: Washington Protests
    By: Arelor to HusTler on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:46 am


    I am disappointed and angry with Donald Trump. I agree that he should
    be removed from office. Even if there is only 12 days left. I also
    believe he should be charged with crimes and jailed once he leaves
    office.


    Crimes such as...?


    just crimes! no logic involved.
    he told people to go there and cheer. that's a crime.
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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Al on Fri Jan 15 10:05:00 2021
    Al wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    Donald Trump pardoned people in his inner circle, his advisors, for
    crimes they committed in his service.

    i.e. Leftie delusional crimes with about as my evidence as the "Russia"
    hoax.

    We've been down this road before and I'll tell you again. A "D" or an
    "R" can be corrupt and if they do something "bad" they should be held accountable.

    OMG! Al finally said something intelligent! Could be actually be getting brains?

    I don't think Donald Trump's "R" or "D" status is an issue, but the actions he has taken are.

    But, no. I guess that even a broken clock is right twice a day.


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Dr. What on Fri Jan 15 09:02:36 2021
    Re: Re: Washington Protests
    By: Dr. What to Al on Fri Jan 15 2021 10:05 am

    Donald Trump pardoned people in his inner circle, his advisors, for
    crimes they committed in his service.

    i.e. Leftie delusional crimes with about as my evidence as the "Russia" hoax.

    The russia hoax? Several have been tried, convicted and jailed.

    Or the corona virus, "It's their new hoax" -Donald Trump 2020
    Or his impeachment, "It's a hoax" -Donald Trump 2021

    Ya'll sure got a lot of hoax's going on over there.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to AL on Fri Jan 15 18:17:00 2021
    So did Obama (inner circle) and Clinton (inner circle for crimes committe
    in his service).

    I am not aware of Obama or Clinton pardoning any staffers, aids or advisors.

    Who were they and what were their crimes committed in his service?

    My interpretation of inner circle is much broader than that. Clinton pardoned/commuted sentences for former business partners and DNC donors,
    for example.

    I have given you names and examples, more than once. You ignore them each
    time so I won't bother.

    And that is worse than domestic terrorists who blew up unarmed American civilians on US soil? Clinton and Obama both pardoned/commuted sentences for members of a group that did that.

    I would say it is. The USA has, over the years spent considerable time and res
    rces litigating war crimes. Why any president would consider a pardon for a wa
    criminal is beyond me.

    I don't think it is worse. It is equal, at best.

    Maybe I should contact Trump and see if he will take a page out of the Obama/Clinton book and pardon/commute a few domestic terrorists and
    seditions conspirators on the condition that they relocate to your area of
    BC? After all, their crimes are apparently not that bad, right?

    Obama used his pardon powers more. Largely because he encouraged federal priso
    rs to apply for commutation under the Clemency Initiative.

    Trump has been pardoning the falsely accussed and others whose punishments
    did not fit their crimes, including minorities. The same type of people
    our VP-elect spent her time keeping in jail.


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  • From Al@VERT/TRMB to Dumas Walker on Fri Jan 15 21:41:50 2021
    Re: Re: Washington Protests
    By: Dumas Walker to AL on Fri Jan 15 2021 06:17 pm

    I have given you names and examples, more than once. You ignore them each time so I won't bother.

    OK. Thanks for your time.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From deepthaw@VERT/CORTEX to Arelor on Thu Jan 7 13:53:57 2021
    On 01/07/2021 10:00 am Arelor said...
    Let's see... there are States in which votes are still in dispute, the relevant chambers take the disputed votes in without objection, and the whole deal is sealed with less than 10 dead?

    They're not under dispute you fucking treasonous moron. The only person claiming any of that bullshit is Trump and his sycophantic seditious terrorists. Shut the fuck up and get out of this country.

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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to deepthaw on Mon Jan 18 22:37:54 2021
    Re: RE: Washington Protests
    By: deepthaw to Arelor on Thu Jan 07 2021 01:53 pm

    Let's see... there are States in which votes are still in dispute,
    the relevant chambers take the disputed votes in without objection,
    and the whole deal is sealed with less than 10 dead?

    They're not under dispute you fucking treasonous moron. The only person claiming any of that bullshit is Trump and his sycophantic seditious terrorists. Shut the fuck up and get out of this country.

    Seriously, there is absolutely no reason to pick on each other. Immediately resorting to name calling, cussing, and such will lose your audience and argument immediately.

    To your point, though, there are no votes in dispute. All Presidential elections were certified and submitted on January 6 for the final tally. Making any argument to the contrary is creating a false narrative which is exactly what the Trump Administration and FOX News, OANN, and Newsmax want you to believe.

    Constitutionally, the argument is closed, Joe Biden won and this must be accepted whether you like it or not. Accept the Constitutional transfer of power.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to deepthaw on Tue Jan 19 01:40:20 2021
    Re: RE: Washington Protests
    By: deepthaw to Arelor on Thu Jan 07 2021 01:53 pm

    On 01/07/2021 10:00 am Arelor said...
    Let's see... there are States in which votes are still in dispute,
    the relevant chambers take the disputed votes in without objection,
    and the whole deal is sealed with less than 10 dead?

    They're not under dispute you fucking treasonous moron. The only person claiming any of that bullshit is Trump and his sycophantic seditious terrorists. Shut the fuck up and get out of this country.


    he's not in the usa and he's not committing treason.

    there's video proof and affidavits from people that worked in us postal and poll places. they say there was fraud committed.

    biden was cheated in and there's no way he got more votes than obama. no fucking way.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dream Master on Tue Jan 19 01:46:19 2021
    Re: RE: Washington Protests
    By: Dream Master to deepthaw on Mon Jan 18 2021 10:37 pm

    Making any argument to the contrary is creating a false narrative which is exactly what the Trump Administration and FOX News, OANN, and Newsmax want you to believe.

    Constitutionally, the argument is closed, Joe Biden won and this must be accepted whether you like it or not. Accept the Constitutional transfer of power.


    nope. i dont give a fuck. i'm going to be an asshole just like these liberals were assholes the whole time trump was in.

    i have a right to complain.

    i accept he cheated and got in. i'm impressed.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dream Master on Tue Jan 19 03:07:02 2021
    Re: RE: Washington Protests
    By: Dream Master to deepthaw on Mon Jan 18 2021 10:37 pm

    They're not under dispute you fucking treasonous moron. The only person claiming any of that bullshit is Trump and his
    sycophantic seditious terrorists. Shut the fuck up and get out of this country.

    Seriously, there is absolutely no reason to pick on each other. Immediately resorting to name calling, cussing, and such wi
    lose your audience and argument immediately.

    Ignore the troll, put it in twit list, move on.

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