Hey guys... I usually log into 2o invisibly, so that I don't add to my call #s or last callers list - but I want to be VISIBLE to other users. (sometimes)

Is there a way to login INVISIBLE and then toggle that mode off? Hmmmm - I'd even like to offer that option to some of my users. Alternatively, if theres no toggle - is there a way to login VISIBLE but not log the call in last callers/total call #s?

Sorry if this is a rehash; but its an issue for me today. Thanks.



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Hey guys... I usually log into 2o invisibly, so that I don't add to my call #s or last callers list - but I want to be VISIBLE to other users. (sometimes)

Is there a way to login INVISIBLE and then toggle that mode off? Hmmmm - I'd even like to offer that option to some of my users. Alternatively,
if theres no toggle - is there a way to login VISIBLE but not log the call in last callers/total call #s?

Do you mean, visible on the local nodes query, for instance? I wasn't aware that was an issue. I thought this only affected the call lists/stats.

McDoob
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Do you mean, visible on the local nodes query, for instance? I wasn't aware that was an issue. I thought this only affected the call lists/stats.

Ummmm... I allow certain users to login invisible on any call, like myself. All s50 users can login invisible after their first call of the day - but I usually ALWAYS login invisible so my calls don't litter the last callers list. However, none of my users can SEE me logged in when I do - so... I'd like to bypass the last callers listing, totall call #s to the bbs, BUT be visible to my users.



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Do you mean, visible on the local nodes query, for instance? I wasn't aware that was an issue. I thought this only affected the call lists/stats.

Ummmm... I allow certain users to login invisible on any call, like myself. All s50 users can login invisible after their first call of the day - but I usually ALWAYS login invisible so my calls don't litter the last callers list. However, none of my users can SEE me logged in when I do - so... I'd like to bypass the last callers listing, totall call #s
to the bbs, BUT be visible to my users.

Okay, yeah, I get what you're saying. Unfortunately, I was under the
impression that this was already the case. I mean, when I check my own "who's online", I show up on it. But...that might only be because I'm the SysOp, and
I can see *everything*. Yet another use for my McTest account that I totally haven't used it for...(o_-)

McDoob
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On 17 Mar 2022, paulie420 said the following...

Ummmm... I allow certain users to login invisible on any call, like myself. All s50 users can login invisible after their first call of the day - but I usually ALWAYS login invisible so my calls don't litter the last callers list. However, none of my users can SEE me logged in when I do - so... I'd like to bypass the last callers listing, totall call #s
to the bbs, BUT be visible to my users.

I know I am thinking basic programming language here, but can't you do a check of access level as the first string in the prelogin menu in the FIRSTCMDS section and if access equals s255 drop to main? You can add in a question for s255 users (Which I assume is only you) do you want to go straight to main? If you answer yes, it will load the main menu and you are good to go, if you say no it will drop you through the entire login process.. This should also bypass all of the logging that is done via the prelogin menu.. I am probably way off on this but it might be worth a shot...

AL

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I know I am thinking basic programming language here, but can't you do a check of access level as the first string in the prelogin menu in the FIRSTCMDS section and if access equals s255 drop to main? You can add in
a question for s255 users (Which I assume is only you) do you want to go straight to main? If you answer yes, it will load the main menu and you are good to go, if you say no it will drop you through the entire login process.. This should also bypass all of the logging that is done via
the prelogin menu.. I am probably way off on this but it might be worth
a shot...

I don't think that's the issue paulie420 is dealing with. He already has a 'fast login' option in his BBS, but it currently takes place *after* the Invisible? prompt, and after the caller log is updated.

However, this begs the question of when, specifically, the caller log is updated...if its immediately after the Invisible? input, perhaps one could make an adjustment to that portion of the login procedure, so that one is not invisible, but bypassing the caller log anyway?

Something to think about...

McDoob
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On 17 Mar 2022, McDoob said the following...

Do you mean, visible on the local nodes query, for instance? I w aware that was an issue. I thought this only affected the call lists/stats.

Ummmm... I allow certain users to login invisible on any call, like myself. All s50 users can login invisible after their first call of t day - but I usually ALWAYS login invisible so my calls don't litter t last callers list. However, none of my users can SEE me logged in whe do - so... I'd like to bypass the last callers listing, totall call # to the bbs, BUT be visible to my users.

Okay, yeah, I get what you're saying. Unfortunately, I was under the impression that this was already the case. I mean, when I check my own "who's online", I show up on it. But...that might only be because I'm account that I totally haven't used it for...(o_-)

Yes in the Mystic configuration under Login/Matrix there's an option called "See Invisible ACS" which means, if a user has X security level or above, they can see anyone even if invisible.

Perhaps you could leverage that Paulie420?

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On 19 Mar 2022, MeaTLoTioN said the following...

On 17 Mar 2022, McDoob said the following...

Do you mean, visible on the local nodes query, for instance aware that was an issue. I thought this only affected the c lists/stats.

Ummmm... I allow certain users to login invisible on any call, l myself. All s50 users can login invisible after their first call day - but I usually ALWAYS login invisible so my calls don't lit last callers list. However, none of my users can SEE me logged i do - so... I'd like to bypass the last callers listing, totall c to the bbs, BUT be visible to my users.

Okay, yeah, I get what you're saying. Unfortunately, I was under the impression that this was already the case. I mean, when I check my ow "who's online", I show up on it. But...that might only be because I'm account that I totally haven't used it for...(o_-)

Yes in the Mystic configuration under Login/Matrix there's an option called "See Invisible ACS" which means, if a user has X security level
or above, they can see anyone even if invisible.

Perhaps you could leverage that Paulie420?

RTFM!
http://wiki.mysticbbs.com/doku.php?id=menu_commands&s[]=toggle

TL;DR Option 16 - Toggle User Invisibility

[snip]
GE - Edit User Settings

Data: <# of field to edit> <Field options>

This command can be used to allow users to edit information in their user profile. The data field must contain a number which defines which field
should be edited.

NOTE: The real name and alias fields (marked with * below) should NEVER be
made available for editing to the user, they are provided to optionally
allow the user to correct mistakes from NEWINFO.MNU only!

The following field numbers can be supplied in the data field:

1 - Street Address 2 - City/State
3 - Zip Code 4 - Home Phone Number
5 - Data Phone Number 6 - Birth date
7 - Gender 8 - Date Format
9 - Terminal Emulation 10 - Screen Length
11 - Password *12 - Real Name
*13 - Alias 14 - Theme Selection
15 - Editor Type 16 - Toggle Invisibility
17 - File List Type 18 - Toggle Availability
19 - Toggle HotKeys 20 - Message Reader Type
21 - Toggle LB Msg Idx 22 - Email Address
23 - User Note 24 - Optional Field 1
25 - Optional Field 2 26 - Optional Field 3
27 - Toggle LB Quote 28 - Toggle LB Email Idx
29 - Toggle Node Chat Type 30 - Toggle QWK FileList
31 - Select Archive Type 32 - Default Transfer Protocol
33 - Use QWKE Packets

Some fields have additional options which can be presented after the field
number on the data field:

14 Theme Selection
------------------

Syntax: [None] [/RELOAD] or [Theme Directory]
Example Data: 14 mytheme

When no extra data is provided, Mystic will prompt the user to select a
theme. If /RELOAD is provided, Mystic will reload the prompts of the
current theme from the disk. If a theme directory is provided (as listed
in the theme editor), then Mystic will automatically switch to that theme
without prompting the user.
[/snip]

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On 17 Mar 2022, paulie420 said the following...

Ummmm... I allow certain users to login invisible on any call, like myself. All s50 users can login invisible after their first call of the day - but I usually ALWAYS login invisible so my calls don't litter the last callers list. However, none of my users can SEE me logged in when I do - so... I'd like to bypass the last callers listing, totall call #s
to the bbs, BUT be visible to my users.

RTFM!
http://wiki.mysticbbs.com/doku.php?id=menu_commands&s[]=toggle

TL;DR Option 16 - Toggle User Invisibility

[snip]
GE - Edit User Settings

Data: <# of field to edit> <Field options>

This command can be used to allow users to edit information in their user profile. The data field must contain a number which defines which field
should be edited.

NOTE: The real name and alias fields (marked with * below) should NEVER be
made available for editing to the user, they are provided to optionally
allow the user to correct mistakes from NEWINFO.MNU only!

The following field numbers can be supplied in the data field:

1 - Street Address 2 - City/State
3 - Zip Code 4 - Home Phone Number
5 - Data Phone Number 6 - Birth date
7 - Gender 8 - Date Format
9 - Terminal Emulation 10 - Screen Length
11 - Password *12 - Real Name
*13 - Alias 14 - Theme Selection
15 - Editor Type 16 - Toggle Invisibility
17 - File List Type 18 - Toggle Availability
19 - Toggle HotKeys 20 - Message Reader Type
21 - Toggle LB Msg Idx 22 - Email Address
23 - User Note 24 - Optional Field 1
25 - Optional Field 2 26 - Optional Field 3
27 - Toggle LB Quote 28 - Toggle LB Email Idx
29 - Toggle Node Chat Type 30 - Toggle QWK FileList
31 - Select Archive Type 32 - Default Transfer Protocol
33 - Use QWKE Packets

Some fields have additional options which can be presented after the field
number on the data field:

14 Theme Selection
------------------

Syntax: [None] [/RELOAD] or [Theme Directory]
Example Data: 14 mytheme

When no extra data is provided, Mystic will prompt the user to select a
theme. If /RELOAD is provided, Mystic will reload the prompts of the
current theme from the disk. If a theme directory is provided (as listed
in the theme editor), then Mystic will automatically switch to that theme
without prompting the user.
[/snip]



Hope this helps =)

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On 18 Mar 2022, McDoob said the following...

I don't think that's the issue paulie420 is dealing with. He already has
a 'fast login' option in his BBS, but it currently takes place *after*
the Invisible? prompt, and after the caller log is updated.

Ah. I gotcha, I misunderstood.. Thanks.. Although I agree makes a good argument to modify the approach of the logging of the user..

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RTFM!
http://wiki.mysticbbs.com/doku.php?id=menu_commands&s[]=toggle

TL;DR Option 16 - Toggle User Invisibility

So mL answered exactly what I was wanting to do... and I should have known this, and I use the GE command a lot to modify user settings... (I believe its GE.) Anyway, its a simple GE, Data: 16 command that got me running. I threw it in my global menu, with s100 access - and certain users can now use that as a feature if they login invisible and want to change that at some point.

Thanks mL - for the answer and the more detailed info you sent me privately.

Also, thanks Bucko, McDoob and others who helped me think thru this one. I felt a bit greenhorn on this question, but thats OK.



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