• Winamp

    From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to All on Fri Jul 29 09:30:16 2022
    A new version was released. it isnt 6.x, but its 5.9

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Utopian Galt on Fri Jul 29 10:57:42 2022
    Re: Winamp
    By: Utopian Galt to All on Fri Jul 29 2022 09:30 am

    A new version was released. it isnt 6.x, but its 5.9

    It looks like it's a release candidate.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Utopian Galt on Sat Jul 30 09:36:00 2022
    Utopian Galt wrote to All <=-

    A new version was released. it isnt 6.x, but its 5.9

    Great, I still use WinAmp. It continues to kick the llama's ass.

    I've used it so long, I have a *license* for it, before they went freeware!


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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jul 31 12:49:21 2022
    Great, I still use WinAmp. It continues to kick the llama's ass.

    I've used it so long, I have a *license* for it, before they went freeware!

    I still have a Winamp install on every system that it has compatibility for... and theres a complete Winamp Archive on 2o with every version from 2.6 to 5.66. :P



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  • From phigan@21:4/137 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jul 31 15:27:49 2022
    Great, I still use WinAmp. It continues to kick the llama's ass.

    Whips. :)

    It really WHIPS the llama's ass.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jul 31 18:21:51 2022
    Re: Re: Winamp
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Utopian Galt on Sat Jul 30 2022 09:36 am

    Great, I still use WinAmp. It continues to kick the llama's ass.

    I've used it so long, I have a *license* for it, before they went freeware!

    I was using WinAmp since 1998 or so, and I thought it was always freeware.. I don't remember seeing any shareware notices or anything, but I could be remembering wrong.

    One thing I noticed was that WinAmp doesn't scale its UI according to the Windows UI scaling settings. Currently I'm using a 4K monitor, and WinAmp's UI is tiny. I think WinAmp has a scaled-up skin, but I don't think it applies to everything (text and some buttons & things might still be fairly small).

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to phigan on Sun Jul 31 19:00:30 2022
    Whips. :)

    It really WHIPS the llama's ass.

    I use xmms, the x multi-media system. It's UI is designed to look like Winamp. It's been forgotten for the most part but I still have it and it still works.

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  • From boraxman@21:1/101 to Al on Mon Aug 1 19:38:00 2022
    I use xmms, the x multi-media system. It's UI is designed to look like Winamp. It's been forgotten for the most part but I still have it and it still works.

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    I used to use that for a long time. I now use Audacious, which can be configured to use the Winamp/XMMS style interface instead of the default GTK one. Audacious is, as a project, more active than XMMS.

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  • From phigan@21:4/137 to Al on Mon Aug 1 22:39:33 2022
    I use xmms, the x multi-media system. It's UI is designed to look like

    Yeah, xmms is pretty great. There used to be a kind-of-lightweight player
    like it for Mac, but I think that's gone now. It'd be cool if xmms worked on Mac too.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to phigan on Tue Aug 2 04:28:06 2022
    I use xmms, the x multi-media system. It's UI is designed to look like

    Yeah, xmms is pretty great. There used to be a kind-of-lightweight player like it for Mac, but I think that's gone now. It'd be cool if xmms worked on Mac too.

    I'm not really sure of the Mac build system but it is BSD based so it is possible.

    I never built xmms myself, it ships with slackware but I could pass you the source and build script.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to phigan on Mon Aug 1 08:02:00 2022
    phigan wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Great, I still use WinAmp. It continues to kick the llama's ass.

    Whips. :)

    It really WHIPS the llama's ass.

    I blame coffee. The lack thereof.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Nightfox on Mon Aug 1 08:04:00 2022
    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I was using WinAmp since 1998 or so, and I thought it was always freeware.. I don't remember seeing any shareware notices or anything,
    but I could be remembering wrong.

    Back in 1997 or so they switched. I was working at a gaming company at the time - we did Tomb Raider. Our QA manager was a horse trader, we ended up swapping licenses of Tomb Raider for Microsoft Office licenses, WinZip, WinAMP, anything we needed. People wanted Tomb Raider in all of its'
    polygonal goodness.

    One thing I noticed was that WinAmp doesn't scale its UI according to
    the Windows UI scaling settings. Currently I'm using a 4K monitor, and WinAmp's UI is tiny. I think WinAmp has a scaled-up skin, but I don't think it applies to everything (text and some buttons & things might
    still be fairly small).

    Yeah, there's a way to double it using ctrl-D, but then it's too big.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to boraxman on Mon Aug 1 08:11:00 2022
    boraxman wrote to Al <=-

    I used to use that for a long time. I now use Audacious, which can be configured to use the Winamp/XMMS style interface instead of the
    default GTK one. Audacious is, as a project, more active than XMMS.

    One of the first things I do with my Linux installs is to download the
    Winamp Classic skin for Audacious.


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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Aug 2 08:58:16 2022
    Re: Re: Winamp
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Mon Aug 01 2022 08:04 am

    Back in 1997 or so they switched. I was working at a gaming company at the time - we did Tomb Raider. Our QA manager was a horse trader, we ended up swapping licenses of Tomb Raider for Microsoft Office licenses, WinZip, WinAMP, anything we needed. People wanted Tomb Raider in all of its' polygonal goodness.

    I remember seeing screenshots of the older Tomb Raider games, though those were a series of games I never played.

    In the late 90s, I had heard of a German band called Die Artze, who used Lara Croft from Tomb Raider in one of their music videos:
    https://youtu.be/404oPn6tudE

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Aug 2 09:49:43 2022
    Back in 1997 or so they switched. I was working at a gaming company at
    the time - we did Tomb Raider. Our QA manager was a horse trader, we ended up swapping licenses of Tomb Raider for Microsoft Office
    licenses, WinZip, WinAMP, anything we needed. People wanted Tomb Raider in all of its' polygonal goodness.

    I love Tomb Raider to this day! Super cool.

    I have a PC build with a dual GPU - one is a Voodoo 3 3500, the other a powervr pcx2. Tomb Raider is an awesome game to experiment with these.

    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/graphics-card-voodoo-3-3500-powervr-pcx2

    Such a great game. Lots of replayability.

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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Poindexter Fortran on Tue Aug 2 17:12:25 2022
    BY: poindexter FORTRAN(21:4/122)


    swapping licenses of Tomb Raider for Microsoft Office licenses, WinZip, WinAMP, anything we needed. People wanted Tomb Raider in all of its' polygonal goodness.
    I have an old dos cd-rom version of tomb raider. I could never learn how to play it.


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  • From phigan@21:4/137 to Al on Tue Aug 2 21:23:00 2022
    I'm not really sure of the Mac build system but it is BSD based so it is possible.

    Yeah I've built it from source in Linux plenty of times, but I'm not sure if it'd be possible on Mac without 'brew'... and I try to stay away from brew
    :/. I should one of these days set up a Mac that I don't use specifically for building stuff that requires brew.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to esc on Wed Aug 3 07:23:00 2022
    esc wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    powervr pcx2. Tomb Raider is an awesome game to experiment with these.

    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/graphics-card-voodoo-3-3500-powervr-pc x2

    Such a great game. Lots of replayability.

    I should dig up an old copy. I'm still playing Quake 2!

    :)


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  • From esc@21:4/173 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Aug 5 11:06:26 2022
    I should dig up an old copy. I'm still playing Quake 2!

    I /love/ Quake 2! Probably my favorite classic FPS. Such an awesome game in every way.

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  • From boraxman@21:1/101 to esc on Sat Aug 6 22:39:49 2022
    I /love/ Quake 2! Probably my favorite classic FPS. Such an awesome game in every way.


    As am I. I play it online from time to time. Would be good to organise some games with Australian players.

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  • From phigan@21:4/137 to esc on Fri Aug 12 07:13:29 2022
    I /love/ Quake 2! Probably my favorite classic FPS. Such an awesome game

    Agreed.. Especially if the server has a good mod that includes the grappling hook. I forget the name of the mod I really liked back then... I want to say the name had something to do with jewels/stones or something.

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to phigan on Fri Aug 12 10:49:10 2022
    Agreed.. Especially if the server has a good mod that includes the grappling hook. I forget the name of the mod I really liked back
    then... I want to say the name had something to do with jewels/stones or something.

    I remember loving those old quake servers. It was really the first (and only) time I had fun with 3D FPS game servers.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to esc on Fri Aug 12 12:48:50 2022
    Re: Re: Winamp
    By: esc to phigan on Fri Aug 12 2022 10:49 am

    I remember loving those old quake servers. It was really the first (and only) time I had fun with 3D FPS game servers.

    I thought Quake 2 was cool and fun, though it wasn't my favorite of the 3D shooters. I like 3D shooters, but I feel like my favorite for multiplayer is the Unreal Tournament series. The first Unreal Tournament was fun, and I've also played Unreal Tournament 2004 and Unreal Tournament 3, as recent as a couple years ago. For a while, there were some Unreal Tournament 3 servers online that I liked to play on, but I don't think they're running anymore.

    Now that I think about it, I wonder what the system requirements are of running an Unreal Tournament server, and if I hosted one myself, I wonder if it would get much use. I wouldn't mind doing that, and finding some of the mods that were used on some of the servers I used to play on.
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  • From esc@21:4/173 to Nightfox on Fri Aug 12 13:19:08 2022
    I thought Quake 2 was cool and fun, though it wasn't my favorite of the
    3D shooters. I like 3D shooters, but I feel like my favorite for multiplayer is the Unreal Tournament series. The first Unreal
    Tournament was fun, and I've also played Unreal Tournament 2004 and
    Unreal Tournament 3, as recent as a couple years ago. For a while,
    there were some Unreal Tournament 3 servers online that I liked to play on, but I don't think they're running anymore.

    I never got into those games but I did recently build an XP gaming machine as well as a W98/DOS gaming machine. Perhaps I should give these a look. Hopefully my rigs are performant enough while being era appropriate for some of these :)

    Alternatively I am working on an OG XBOX build.

    Now that I think about it, I wonder what the system requirements are of running an Unreal Tournament server, and if I hosted one myself, I
    wonder if it would get much use. I wouldn't mind doing that, and
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    I did this with DOOM not long ago and a bunch of us deathmatched for a while. It was great fun until I got motion sick lol.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to esc on Sat Aug 13 11:24:00 2022
    On 08-12-22 10:49, esc wrote to phigan <=-

    I remember loving those old quake servers. It was really the first (and only) time I had fun with 3D FPS game servers.

    Only think I ever did with Quake was run a server at work, and the office gamers loved me when I moved the server from Windows to Linux, because it ran heaps faster with no lag on Linux. ;)


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  • From boraxman@21:1/101 to Nightfox on Sat Aug 13 21:20:25 2022
    I thought Quake 2 was cool and fun, though it wasn't my favorite of the
    3D shooters. I like 3D shooters, but I feel like my favorite for multiplayer is the Unreal Tournament series. The first Unreal
    Tournament was fun, and I've also played Unreal Tournament 2004 and
    Unreal Tournament 3, as recent as a couple years ago. For a while,
    there were some Unreal Tournament 3 servers online that I liked to play on, but I don't think they're running anymore.

    Now that I think about it, I wonder what the system requirements are of running an Unreal Tournament server, and if I hosted one myself, I
    wonder if it would get much use. I wouldn't mind doing that, and
    finding some of the mods that were used on some of the servers I used to play on. --- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux

    I preferred Quake 2 in the day, and I STILL occasionally hop on a server every now and then, though the only ones with activity are overseas so ping times suck. But the Unreal series was more interesting in where they took their design. iD made great engines, but were quite conservative in gameplay and design. The levels were rarely "out there" the way the Unreal levels were.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to esc on Sat Aug 13 09:11:00 2022
    Re: Re: Winamp
    By: esc to Nightfox on Fri Aug 12 2022 01:19 pm

    Alternatively I am working on an OG XBOX build.

    What is an OG XBOX? And by "build", do you mean you're building your own X-Box?

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Vk3jed on Sat Aug 13 09:18:28 2022
    Re: Re: Winamp
    By: Vk3jed to esc on Sat Aug 13 2022 11:24 am

    Only think I ever did with Quake was run a server at work, and the office gamers loved me when I moved the server from Windows to Linux, because it ran heaps faster with no lag on Linux. ;)

    Speaking of lag, one thing that annoyed me about Quake 2 was that it seemed like it was the worst with lag.. There were many Quake 2 games I joined online that were very laggy - It would keep repeating the last movement I had done, etc., and it was really annoying.

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to Nightfox on Sun Aug 14 00:12:50 2022
    What is an OG XBOX? And by "build", do you mean you're building your own X-Box?

    OG = original. The oldschool one.

    And by "build" I mean disassembling and modifying one :) Not build as in, from scratch.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to esc on Sun Aug 14 18:15:00 2022
    I thought Quake 2 was cool and fun, though it wasn't my favorite of

    I never got into those games but I did recently build an XP gaming machine as well as a W98/DOS gaming machine. Perhaps I should give these a look. Hopefully my rigs are performant enough while being era appropriate for some of these :)

    Most of those era games will be happy so long as you have any kind of 3D capable video card. Right back to the venerable Voodoo.

    Spec


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to boraxman on Sun Aug 14 18:18:00 2022
    I /love/ Quake 2! Probably my favorite classic FPS. Such an awesome

    As am I. I play it online from time to time. Would be good to organise some games with Australian players.

    I was never a fan of Q1 or Q2, I think I played them LAN with the handbrake briefly.. it was Q3 that grabbed me, and from time to time I pop up a Q3 server.

    Spe


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  • From esc@21:4/173 to Spectre on Sun Aug 14 12:35:51 2022
    Most of those era games will be happy so long as you have any kind of 3D capable video card. Right back to the venerable Voodoo.

    Yep! My Win98 rig has a voodoo 3 3500 so I am in good shape :)

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Nightfox on Mon Aug 15 21:39:00 2022
    On 08-13-22 09:18, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Speaking of lag, one thing that annoyed me about Quake 2 was that it seemed like it was the worst with lag.. There were many Quake 2 games
    I joined online that were very laggy - It would keep repeating the last movement I had done, etc., and it was really annoying.

    I can't speak to the player's PoV, I never actually played any of the Quake series. :)


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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to esc on Mon Aug 15 08:39:04 2022
    Re: Re: Winamp
    By: esc to Nightfox on Sun Aug 14 2022 12:12 am

    OG = original. The oldschool one.

    So that's the O, but what about the G? :P

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to Nightfox on Mon Aug 15 12:30:52 2022
    OG = original. The oldschool one.

    So that's the O, but what about the G? :P

    OG = Original Gangster. It's a colloquial term in gang culture to represent someone that has been in a gang for a long time, typically since its inception. This has transcended into meaning "original" in terms of products...like I used to have an OG Beetle which basically meant not the new Beetle, the original one from the 50s.

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  • From phigan@21:4/137 to Nightfox on Thu Aug 18 16:45:38 2022
    multiplayer is the Unreal Tournament series. The first Unreal
    Tournament was fun, and I've also played Unreal Tournament 2004 and

    Quake 2 was also the only FPS game I've ever really liked, but I do remember that Unreal Tournament was also good. The problem was that I never had good enough hardware at the time to play those games. With Quake 2 I could stick
    it in software 640x480 mode and be good to go!

    running an Unreal Tournament server, and if I hosted one myself, I
    wonder if it would get much use. I wouldn't mind doing that, and

    I'd try it once :)

    This is probably the wrong base for all this. We could chat on IRC about it.

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