• SRIF processor

    From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to All on Fri Jul 9 21:15:23 2021
    Hello All,

    I am getting ready to dump Internet Rex and I am wondering what you all use for a SRIF processor? I'd still like to be able to receive/send FREQd files through my setup.

    -- Sean

    ... WinErr 002: No error ... yet.
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  • From Tiny@618:500/33 to Sean Dennis on Sat Jul 10 05:20:14 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to All <=-

    I am getting ready to dump Internet Rex and I am wondering what you all use for a SRIF processor? I'd still like to be able to receive/send
    FREQd files through my setup.

    On my talisman side (which doens't use irex) I have't set it up. ;) So
    I'm watching this thread to see what other people recomend to you.

    Shawn

    ... No sex life? There's always computers...

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  • From Zip@618:500/27 to Sean Dennis on Sat Jul 10 13:12:12 2021
    Hello again, Sean!

    On 10 Jul 2021, Zip said the following...
    I'm using a modded version of https://github.com/pgul/binkd/blob/37a73976e9d01bce6dbabb7bca39eab80277bae c/srifreq which has been adapted to work with newer (4+) versions of
    bash. It seems they changed the format of the BASH_VERSINFO array, so I had to fix that.

    If anyone would like to take a look, please feel free to fetch it from:

    https://scbbs.nsupdate.info/files/srifreq

    Best regards
    Björn

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  • From Zip@618:500/27 to Sean Dennis on Sat Jul 10 13:09:13 2021
    Hello Sean!

    On 09 Jul 2021, Sean Dennis said the following...
    I am getting ready to dump Internet Rex and I am wondering what you all use for a SRIF processor? I'd still like to be able to receive/send
    FREQd files through my setup.

    I'm using a modded version of https://github.com/pgul/binkd/blob/37a73976e9d01bce6dbabb7bca39eab80277bae4/mis
    c/srifreq which has been adapted to work with newer (4+) versions of bash. It seems they changed the format of the BASH_VERSINFO array, so I had to fix that.

    Haven't actually tested it :-D, but if someone would FREQ "FILES" from me (either using binkp, or IFC/ITN/IVM i.e. ifcico), hopefully you should receive an allfiles listing back. :-D

    Best regards
    Björn

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Tiny on Sat Jul 10 13:48:06 2021
    Tiny wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    On my talisman side (which doens't use irex) I have't set it up. ;) So I'm watching this thread to see what other people recomend to you.

    I'm looking at ALLFIX but I am told its current maintainer can't build new
    OS/2 builds. So I am going to help this person fix that issue.

    -- Sean

    ... Misery no longer loves company. Nowadays it insists on it.
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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Zip on Sat Jul 10 13:48:08 2021
    Zip wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    https://scbbs.nsupdate.info/files/srifreq

    I'll take a look. Thanks!

    -- Sean

    ... "What the hell ... it works on Star Trek."
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  • From Tiny@618:500/33 to Sean Dennis on Sun Jul 11 07:57:25 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to Tiny <=-

    I'm looking at ALLFIX but I am told its current maintainer can't build
    new OS/2 builds. So I am going to help this person fix that issue.

    Good luck! Could you run the older os/2 version? I mean it probably
    has all the features you want or need in it? I used to use an old
    dos version years ago.

    Shawn

    ... Architecture is the art of how to waste space.

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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Zip on Sun Jul 11 09:17:00 2021
    Hello Zip!

    ** On Saturday 10.07.21 - 13:09, Zip wrote to Sean Dennis:

    Haven't actually tested it :-D, but if someone would FREQ "FILES" from me (either using binkp, or IFC/ITN/IVM i.e. ifcico), hopefully you should receive an allfiles listing back. :-D

    I would, but your nodelist entry doesn't have an ITN or an INA
    to inform my system what to connect to.

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Tiny on Sun Jul 11 14:05:50 2021
    Hello Tiny,

    Sunday July 11 2021 07:57, you wrote to me:

    Good luck! Could you run the older os/2 version? I mean it probably
    has all the features you want or need in it? I used to use an old
    dos version years ago.

    I could but if I can get new OS/2 versions created, that would be good. I really don't need all of the fancy functions of ALLFIX but it will do what I need.

    I'm holding off on doing the big change until after I move the BBS to the HPE server. Then I'll start the process of changing from IRex. I have to slow myself down these days and remind myself that I have plenty of time to do what I need to do and not rush to do things on days off from work.

    -- Sean

    ... God gives us relatives; thank God we can chose our friends.
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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to August Abolins on Sun Jul 11 14:10:02 2021
    Hello August,

    Sunday July 11 2021 09:17, you wrote to Zip:

    I would, but your nodelist entry doesn't have an ITN or an INA
    to inform my system what to connect to.

    If you're talking Bjorn's Micronet nodelist entry, he does have an INA listed as scbbs.nsupdate.info.

    -- Sean

    ... Always draw your curves then plot your reading.
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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Sean Dennis on Sun Jul 11 17:18:00 2021
    Hello Sean Dennis!

    ** On Sunday 11.07.21 - 14:10, Sean Dennis wrote to August Abolins:

    I would, but your nodelist entry doesn't have an ITN or an INA
    to inform my system what to connect to.

    If you're talking Bjorn's Micronet nodelist entry, he does have an INA listed as scbbs.nsupdate.info.

    Ok.. Looking at the nodelist directly, I see:

    ,27,Star_Collision_BBS,Uppsala_Sweden,Bjorn_Wiberg,46-18- 7501515,9600,ICM,TJT,XW,V90C,X2C,VFC,V32T,H16,INA:scbbs.nsupdat e.info,IBN,IFC,ITN:60177,IVM:60177,UMY,ENC

    But.. something about nodelist .190 seems broken. Too many
    fields? What is "TJT"?

    It doesn't even render properly for my fidograph version at http://kolico.ca/ftn/micronet :( The last known version that
    "looks" right is .127.

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    ../|ug

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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Sean Dennis on Sun Jul 11 18:09:00 2021
    Hello Sean Dennis!

    If you're talking Bjorn's Micronet nodelist entry, he does have an INA listed as scbbs.nsupdate.info.

    Another thing FYI. I freq'd MININFO from your site, but it
    doesn't contain the nodelist. :/

    BTW, this one from March works:

    ;A Zone Nodelist for Friday, March 26, 2021 -- Day number 085 :
    07354

    ,27,Star_Collision_BBS,Uppsala_Sweden,Bjorn_Wiberg,- Unpublished-,300,CM,XW,INA:scbbs.nsupdate.info,IBN,IFC,ITN:6017
    7,IVM:60177,UMY

    But this one doesn't:

    ;A Zone Nodelist for Friday, July 9, 2021 -- Day number 190 : 34449

    ,27,Star_Collision_BBS,Uppsala_Sweden,Bjorn_Wiberg,46-18- 7501515,9600,ICM,TJT,XW,V90C,X2C,VFC,V32T,H16,INA:scbbs.nsupdat e.info,IBN,IFC,ITN:60177,IVM:60177,UMY,ENC

    Analysing other nodelist entries (in fidonet).. most of them
    have the FREQ'able flag right after the baud rate, and *then*
    the INA stuff right after. So, maybe something like this might
    be workable for Bjorn's entry:

    ,27,Star_Collision_BBS,Uppsala_Sweden,Bjorn_Wiberg,46-18- 7501515,9600,XW,INA:scbbs.nsupdate.info,V90C,X2C,VFC,V32T,H16,I BN,IFC,ITN:60177,IVM:60177,UMY,ICM,TJT,ENC



    --
    ../|ug

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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Zip on Sun Jul 11 18:32:00 2021
    Hello Zip!

    ** On Saturday 10.07.21 - 13:09, Zip wrote to Sean Dennis:

    Haven't actually tested it :-D, but if someone would FREQ
    "FILES" from me (either using binkp, or IFC/ITN/IVM i.e.
    ifcico), hopefully you should receive an allfiles listing
    back. :-D


    I just tried it. Seemed to go OK.

    = 18:27:29 CONNECT
    18:27:30 OPT CRAM-MD5-43f2e1b8944760c2424b51c1ecb77dee
    18:27:30 SYS Star Collision BBS
    18:27:30 ZYZ Bjorn Wiberg
    18:27:30 LOC Uppsala, Sweden
    18:27:30 NDL 9600,ICM,TJT,XW,V90C,X2C,VFC,V32T,H16,INA:scbbs.nsupdate.info,IBN,IFC,ITN:60177,
    IVM:60177,U,ENC
    18:27:30 TIME Mon, 12 Jul 2021 00:27:26 +0200
    18:27:30 VER binkd/1.1a-99/Linux binkp/1.1
    18:27:31 OPT EXTCMD GZ
    18:27:31 non-secure
    * 18:27:31 Sent 01F4001B.REQ, 7b
    * 18:27:56 Rcvd allfiles.txt, 1681428b
    = 18:27:57 hangup
    - 18:27:57 exiting


    --
    ../|ug

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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Zip on Sun Jul 11 19:06:00 2021
    Hello Zip!

    ** On Saturday 10.07.21 - 13:09, Zip wrote to Sean Dennis:

    Haven't actually tested it :-D, but if someone would FREQ
    "FILES" from me (either using binkp, or IFC/ITN/IVM i.e.
    ifcico), hopefully you should receive an allfiles listing
    back. :-D


    I just tried it. Seemed to go OK.

    = 18:27:29 CONNECT
    18:27:30 OPT CRAM-MD5-43f2e1b8944760c2424b51c1ecb77dee
    18:27:30 SYS Star Collision BBS
    18:27:30 ZYZ Bjorn Wiberg
    18:27:30 LOC Uppsala, Sweden
    18:27:30 NDL 9600,ICM,TJT,XW,V90C,X2C,VFC,V32T,H16,INA:scbbs.nsupdate. info,IBN,IFC,ITN:60177, IVM:60177,U,ENC
    18:27:30 TIME Mon, 12 Jul 2021 00:27:26 +0200
    18:27:30 VER binkd/1.1a-99/Linux binkp/1.1
    18:27:31 OPT EXTCMD GZ
    18:27:31 non-secure
    * 18:27:31 Sent 01F4001B.REQ, 7b
    * 18:27:56 Rcvd allfiles.txt, 1681428b
    = 18:27:57 hangup
    - 18:27:57 exiting


    Upon INSPECTION of the contents of "allfiles.txt", it is NOT a
    text file. But it looks like this:

    https://susepaste.org/77106243

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Zip@618:500/27 to August Abolins on Mon Jul 12 09:04:15 2021
    Hello again, August!

    On 11 Jul 2021, August Abolins said the following...
    Analysing other nodelist entries (in fidonet).. most of them
    have the FREQ'able flag right after the baud rate, and *then*
    the INA stuff right after. So, maybe something like this might

    According to FTS-5001.006 section 4 (why do I feel like a FidoNet police? :-D), "Unless otherwise stated, flags are not position or order dependent, with the exception that User Flags must follow Normal Flags.", so ordering should not matter in practice.

    Then there's that saying about theory and practice... =)

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From Zip@618:500/27 to August Abolins on Mon Jul 12 08:57:24 2021
    Hello August!

    On 11 Jul 2021, August Abolins said the following...
    But.. something about nodelist .190 seems broken. Too many
    fields? What is "TJT"?

    TJT (which over the years was converted from a user flag to a "conventional" nodelist flag, is the system's opening hours (except for ZMH which should always be open -- unclear what ZMH would be for Micronet, though?).

    See section 5.7 of http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-5001.006 for a more detailed specification. =)

    This is due to the fact that the BBS/mailer is using my voice line, and I'm trying to avoid calls in the middle of the night until getting a separate line for it.

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From Zip@618:500/27 to August Abolins on Mon Jul 12 08:49:05 2021
    Hello August!

    On 11 Jul 2021, August Abolins said the following...
    I just tried it. Seemed to go OK.

    Thanks a lot for testing!

    Upon INSPECTION of the contents of "allfiles.txt", it is NOT a
    text file. But it looks like this:
    https://susepaste.org/77106243

    Ah, yes -- it's created by Mystic and may contain ANSI sequences etc, too. Not sure if this is something that Mystic can be instructed to convert into plain text, though...

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Zip on Mon Jul 12 14:11:10 2021
    Zip wrote to August Abolins <=-

    Then there's that saying about theory and practice... =)

    As I have said before and is worth repeating: Micronet follows the
    Fidonet "standards" as published by the FTSC. I'm a former member of
    the FTSC and Andrew is the current FTSC administrator. I believe Nick
    and Deon are members of the FTSC also.

    -- Sean


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  • From Zip@618:500/27 to Sean Dennis on Tue Jul 13 07:33:59 2021
    Hello Sean!

    On 12 Jul 2021, Sean Dennis said the following...
    As I have said before and is worth repeating: Micronet follows the
    Fidonet "standards" as published by the FTSC.

    Yep! It's good to have standards -- without them things would become very ad hoc and interoperability would become a nightmare.

    Best regards
    Björn

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Zip on Tue Jul 13 02:20:10 2021
    Hello, Zip!

    Replying to a message of Zip to Sean Dennis:

    Yep! It's good to have standards -- without them things would become
    very ad hoc and interoperability would become a nightmare.

    The best thing about standards is there's so many to choose from. *smirk*

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Lux@618:300/10 to Sean Dennis on Tue Jul 13 00:00:38 2021
    I am getting ready to dump Internet Rex and I am wondering what you all us for a SRIF processor? I'd still like to be able to receive/send FREQd fil through my setup.

    D'Bridge

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  • From Tiny@618:500/33 to Sean Dennis on Tue Jul 13 05:55:02 2021
    Sean Dennis wrote to Tiny <=-

    I could but if I can get new OS/2 versions created, that would be good.
    I really don't need all of the fancy functions of ALLFIX but it will
    do what I need.

    I looked at it again the other day when we started this conversation. It's just too much work for the one feature I'd use.

    I'm holding off on doing the big change until after I move the BBS to
    the HPE server. Then I'll start the process of changing from IRex. I have to slow myself down these days and remind myself that I have
    plenty of time to do what I need to do and not rush to do things on
    days off from work.

    True enough. Take it slow and do it right.

    Shawn

    ... To err is human, but to really foul things up requires a computer.

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