• No traffic.

    From Melkor@618:200/44 to All on Fri Dec 11 13:45:36 2020
    I havent gotten anything in Micronet for a few days so just posting to see if 1. It goes out and 2. Sometimes it will triger something and Ill receive messages.
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  • From Kevin Nunn@618:200/1 to Melkor on Fri Dec 11 18:05:09 2020
    Hello Melkor.

    11 Dec 20 13:45, you wrote to all:

    I havent gotten anything in Micronet for a few days so just posting to
    see if 1. It goes out and 2. Sometimes it will triger something and
    Ill receive messages.

    I just think it's been slow, maybe everyone still in a food coma.


    Kevin

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  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to Melkor on Sun Dec 13 14:29:12 2020
    I havent gotten anything in Micronet for a few days so just posting to see if 1. It goes out and 2.
    Sometimes it will triger something and Ill receive messages. --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux

    I'm here. Not much going on in Micronet at the moment.
    Ping Pong.
    Doot doot.
    Honk Honk.
    Wee Woo.
    Zip Zorp.

    |01bobbobbobbob|09bob|03bob|11bob|03bob|09bob|01bobbobbob |01robrobrobrob|09rob|03rob|11rob|03rob|09rob|01robrobrob
    |07




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  • From Zip@618:500/27 to Melkor on Mon Dec 14 10:33:15 2020
    Hello Melkor!

    On 11 Dec 2020, Melkor said the following...
    I havent gotten anything in Micronet for a few days so just posting to
    see if 1. It goes out and 2. Sometimes it will triger something and Ill receive messages.

    It's been a little quiet in several networks, I guess many are busy as Christmas is approaching... :-)

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Melkor on Mon Dec 14 04:49:58 2020
    Re: No traffic.
    By: Melkor to All on Fri Dec 11 2020 01:45 pm

    I havent gotten anything in Micronet for a few days so just posting to see i 1. It goes out and 2. Sometimes it will triger something and Ill receive messages.

    I got your message. I guess this network has gone silent because everybody is signing up for their local militia or otherwise busy these days.
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to ARELOR on Mon Dec 14 10:49:00 2020
    I havent gotten anything in Micronet for a few days so just posting to see 1. It goes out and 2. Sometimes it will triger something and Ill receive messages.

    I got your message. I guess this network has gone silent because everybody is signing up for their local militia or otherwise busy these days.

    SHHHHH! That is supposed to be a secret! :O

    :D

    Mike

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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to Melkor on Tue Dec 15 14:55:00 2020
    I havent gotten anything in Micronet for a few days so just posting to
    see if 1. It goes out and 2. Sometimes it will triger something and Ill receive messages.

    I've had other things outside the BBS...today's my first logon in nearly
    a week.

    Daryl

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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Zip on Mon Dec 14 06:23:00 2020
    Zip wrote to Melkor <=-

    On 11 Dec 2020, Melkor said the following...
    I havent gotten anything in Micronet for a few days so just posting to
    see if 1. It goes out and 2. Sometimes it will triger something and Ill receive messages.


    I'm having problems resolving minftn.net, and saw an email from Sean
    saying he was passing Micronet off to Andrew. Maybe it's taking a
    while to move the domain?




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  • From Andrew Leary@618:100/2 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Dec 16 16:48:15 2020
    Hello Kurt!

    14 Dec 20 06:23, you wrote to Zip:

    I'm having problems resolving minftn.net, and saw an email from Sean
    saying he was passing Micronet off to Andrew. Maybe it's taking a
    while to move the domain?

    minftn.net has now been renewed; Sean and I are still working on the details of the transfer.

    Regards,

    Andrew

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  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to Andrew Leary on Wed Dec 16 14:40:19 2020
    minftn.net has now been renewed; Sean and I are still working on the details of the transfer.

    Uh-oh. Big money changing hands. If you need an Escrow provider, let me know. :-)

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  • From Zip@618:500/27 to Kurt Weiske on Thu Dec 17 07:42:45 2020
    Hello Kurt!

    On 14 Dec 2020, Kurt Weiske said the following...
    I'm having problems resolving minftn.net, and saw an email from Sean
    saying he was passing Micronet off to Andrew. Maybe it's taking a
    while to move the domain?

    Hmm, missed that, but, yes, that could be so...

    Seems to be resolving fine here now, though.
    (Although I'm not sure if things have changed "web-wise".)

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Kurt Weiske on Thu Dec 17 06:46:24 2020
    Re: Re: No traffic.
    By: Kurt Weiske to Zip on Mon Dec 14 2020 06:23 am

    Zip wrote to Melkor <=-

    On 11 Dec 2020, Melkor said the following...
    I havent gotten anything in Micronet for a few days so just posting to see if 1. It goes out and 2. Sometimes it will triger something and Ill receive messages.


    I'm having problems resolving minftn.net, and saw an email from Sean
    saying he was passing Micronet off to Andrew. Maybe it's taking a
    while to move the domain?




    ... Are there sections? Consider transitions
    Now you got me worried. Is Sean doing alright?
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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Arelor on Thu Dec 17 06:46:00 2020
    Arelor wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Now you got me worried. Is Sean doing alright?

    I'm surprised he hasn't posted something here. I know he's been going
    through a lot.



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  • From August Abolins@618:510/1.1 to Arelor on Sat Dec 19 19:42:00 2020
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Thursday 17.12.20 - 06:46, Arelor wrote to Kurt Weiske:

    I'm having problems resolving minftn.net, and saw an email from Sean
    saying he was passing Micronet off to Andrew. Maybe it's taking a
    while to move the domain?

    ... Are there sections? Consider transitions

    Now you got me worried. Is Sean doing alright?

    If I remember correctly, a few months ago Sean mentioned that
    he was slated for surgery at some point. Maybe that point in
    time is right about now?

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to August Abolins on Sat Dec 19 17:04:34 2020
    Now you got me worried. Is Sean doing alright?

    If I remember correctly, a few months ago Sean mentioned that
    he was slated for surgery at some point. Maybe that point in
    time is right about now?

    Shoot. I hope he is ok as well. Missing him on the nets....
    Best wishes Sean.

    Bob Roberts
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  • From Utopian Galt@618:250/28 to Bob Roberts on Sun Dec 27 22:47:38 2020
    Shoot. I hope he is ok as well. Missing him on the nets....
    Best wishes Sean.
    He tries his best to post on the facebook bbsing community forum as
    well.
    -Matthew Munson
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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Utopian Galt on Mon Dec 28 03:54:54 2020
    Re: No traffic.
    By: Utopian Galt to Bob Roberts on Sun Dec 27 2020 10:47 pm

    Shoot. I hope he is ok as well. Missing him on the nets....
    Best wishes Sean.
    He tries his best to post on the facebook bbsing community forum as
    well.
    -Matthew Munson

    Any news yet?

    Something fine, like "I won the lotto, so now I am migrating my BBS to a proper server farm with 4000 CPUs"?
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  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to Arelor on Mon Dec 28 13:17:14 2020
    He tries his best to post on the facebook bbsing community forum as
    well.

    Something fine, like "I won the lotto, so now I am migrating my BBS to a proper server farm with 4000 CPUs"?

    Shoot, and I thought my 2 CPU VM was overkill. :-)
    The Ferengi could really move fast with 4000 CPUs.

    Bob Roberts
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    * Origin: Halls of Valhalla -=- Happy New Year (618:300/36)
  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Bob Roberts on Mon Dec 28 18:29:11 2020
    Re: No traffic.
    By: Bob Roberts to Arelor on Mon Dec 28 2020 01:17 pm

    He tries his best to post on the facebook bbsing community forum as
    well.

    Something fine, like "I won the lotto, so now I am migrating my BBS to proper server farm with 4000 CPUs"?

    Shoot, and I thought my 2 CPU VM was overkill. :-)
    The Ferengi could really move fast with 4000 CPUs.

    Bob Roberts

    Imagine all the ASCII art rendering you could do with a server farm.

    Speaking of which, do you know there is a terminal web browser that uses firefox' engine for rendering web pages?

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  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to Arelor on Mon Dec 28 17:45:16 2020
    Imagine all the ASCII art rendering you could do with a server farm.

    Speaking of which, do you know there is a terminal web browser that uses firefox' engine for rendering web pages?

    I did not. What's it called?

    Bob Roberts

    ... Help stamp out and abolish redundancy.
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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Bob Roberts on Tue Dec 29 03:57:56 2020
    Re: No traffic.
    By: Bob Roberts to Arelor on Mon Dec 28 2020 05:45 pm

    Imagine all the ASCII art rendering you could do with a server farm.

    Speaking of which, do you know there is a terminal web browser that use firefox' engine for rendering web pages?

    I did not. What's it called?

    Bob Roberts

    ... Help stamp out and abolish redundancy.

    I think it is called Browsh. The idea is that you can have the browser sitting in a server with a powerful connection, so if you are in a rural area or a boat sor something and need to browse the internet, you can SSH into the server and fire Browsh over SSH.

    The idea is that since you are only getting terminal output over your <server>
    <--> <boat> connection, your are saving bandwith for your weak link while
    having the website rendered by a real rendering engine.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Bob Roberts on Tue Dec 29 07:40:00 2020
    Bob Roberts wrote to Arelor <=-

    Something fine, like "I won the lotto, so now I am migrating my BBS to a proper server farm with 4000 CPUs"?

    Shoot, and I thought my 2 CPU VM was overkill. :-)
    The Ferengi could really move fast with 4000 CPUs.

    My wife and I sometimes daydream about winning the lottery or a
    company we own stock in going public (finally!). She's thinking about landscaping, I'm picturing a server rack in the storage space, modern
    servers, NAS, CAT 6 throughout the house...



    ... Discover your formulas and abandon them
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  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to Kurt Weiske on Tue Dec 29 10:43:56 2020
    My wife and I sometimes daydream about winning the lottery or a
    company we own stock in going public (finally!). She's thinking about landscaping, I'm picturing a server rack in the storage space, modern servers, NAS, CAT 6 throughout the house...

    Mmmm. For me it a high-end home automation system. TV's with distributed video everywhere. Top of the line dedicated home theater, whole house audio and lighting control.

    Bob Roberts
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  • From Steve Wolf@618:250/1 to Bob Roberts on Tue Dec 29 15:03:35 2020
    Re: Re: No traffic.
    By: Bob Roberts to Kurt Weiske on Tue Dec 29 2020 10:43:56

    Mmmm. For me it a high-end home automation system. TV's with distributed video everywhere. Top of the line dedicated home theater, whole house audio

    I dunno? All that tech stuff seems great but I'm pretty content with my 27 inch TV and laptop. ;-)

    |04 HusTler
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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Bob Roberts on Tue Dec 29 16:42:00 2020
    Re: Re: No traffic.
    By: Bob Roberts to Kurt Weiske on Tue Dec 29 2020 10:43 am

    My wife and I sometimes daydream about winning the lottery or a
    company we own stock in going public (finally!). She's thinking about landscaping, I'm picturing a server rack in the storage space, modern servers, NAS, CAT 6 throughout the house...

    Mmmm. For me it a high-end home automation system. TV's with distributed video everywhere. Top of the line dedicated home theater, whole house audio and lighting control.

    Bob Roberts

    I am with Kurt here. I would just set a data center and do something awesome with it. Such as renting computer power for $$$


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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Bob Roberts on Wed Dec 30 07:12:00 2020
    Bob Roberts wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Mmmm. For me it a high-end home automation system. TV's with
    distributed video everywhere. Top of the line dedicated home theater, whole house audio and lighting control.

    I think my wife would vote for a system like Sonos where we could get
    music in every room of the house and in our (soon to be complete)
    back yard.

    ...And someone to rip all of her CDs to MP3.



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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Steve Wolf on Wed Dec 30 07:14:00 2020
    Steve Wolf wrote to Bob Roberts <=-

    I dunno? All that tech stuff seems great but I'm pretty content with
    my 27 inch TV and laptop. ;-)

    I think back to my one-bedroom apartment and lament about how easy it
    was to network it. I'm on two floors now, with a cable modem
    downstairs, 2 wifi extenders for the media devices and laptops, and a
    Powerline network connecting the BBS and my desktop to the router...



    ... Magnify the most difficult details
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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Dec 30 10:20:52 2020
    Re: Re: No traffic.
    By: Kurt Weiske to Bob Roberts on Wed Dec 30 2020 07:12 am

    Bob Roberts wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Mmmm. For me it a high-end home automation system. TV's with distributed video everywhere. Top of the line dedicated home theater, whole house audio and lighting control.

    I think my wife would vote for a system like Sonos where we could get
    music in every room of the house and in our (soon to be complete)
    back yard.

    ...And someone to rip all of her CDs to MP3.



    ... Magnify the most difficult details

    I think somebody accomplished it in Linux Magazine with a bunch of raspberry pis, python and motion sensors.
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  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Dec 30 09:23:28 2020
    Mmmm. For me it a high-end home automation system. TV's with
    distributed video everywhere. Top of the line dedicated home
    theater, whole house audio and lighting control.

    I think my wife would vote for a system like Sonos where we could get music in every room of the house and in our (soon to be complete)
    back yard.

    Totally. Sonos is awesome. Most whole-home audio setups will have 2 or 3 Sonos PORTs connected to different areas of the home, using in-ceiling or in-wall audio.

    ...And someone to rip all of her CDs to MP3.

    A streaming service which has Sonos integration would be easier. No need to deal with the physical CDs and access to almost every track out there. But in this scenario you can use your infinate wealth to hire someone to do it. :-)

    Bob Roberts
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  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to Arelor on Wed Dec 30 09:33:05 2020
    I think somebody accomplished it in Linux Magazine with a bunch of raspberry pis, python and motion sensors.

    Of course. There are a million ways to homebrew a solution to home automation, or use one of the new offerings from Apple, Google, Amazon, etc. But this is the infinite-money scenario. I would use the professional offerings the elite put in their estates. Control4, Crestron, etc.

    Bob Roberts
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  • From Nelgin@618:250/19 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Dec 30 13:50:11 2020
    Kurt wrote:
    Bob Roberts wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Mmmm. For me it a high-end home automation system. TV's with distributed video everywhere. Top of the line dedicated home theater, whole house audio and lighting control.

    I think my wife would vote for a system like Sonos where we could get
    music in every room of the house and in our (soon to be complete)
    back yard.

    ...And someone to rip all of her CDs to MP3.

    We've got 2 Alexa Echos and an Alexa Show inside and the sound isn't too bad. I've got a bluetooth soundbar hooked up to a TV outside so I can play music from my phone. I've got tons of CDs ripped so no lack of music.
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  • From Nelgin@618:250/19 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Dec 30 13:52:29 2020
    Kurt wrote:
    Steve Wolf wrote to Bob Roberts <=-

    I dunno? All that tech stuff seems great but I'm pretty content with my 27 inch TV and laptop. ;-)

    I think back to my one-bedroom apartment and lament about how easy it
    was to network it. I'm on two floors now, with a cable modem
    downstairs, 2 wifi extenders for the media devices and laptops, and a Powerline network connecting the BBS and my desktop to the router...

    When I had a new roof put on, I had them run a cable for me from where the TV is in the living room to where the router lives in my office so I don't have
    to deal with weak network connectivity between the two. Unfortunately it was only CAT5 and not CAT6. Maybe next time I get the roof done, I'll rerun a new cable.
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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Bob Roberts on Wed Dec 30 18:02:36 2020
    Re: Re: No traffic.
    By: Bob Roberts to Arelor on Wed Dec 30 2020 09:33 am

    I think somebody accomplished it in Linux Magazine with a bunch of raspberry pis, python and motion sensors.

    Of course. There are a million ways to homebrew a solution to home automati or use one of the new offerings from Apple, Google, Amazon, etc. But this i the infinite-money scenario. I would use the professional offerings the eli put in their estates. Control4, Crestron, etc.

    Bob Roberts

    In an infinite-money scenario I would prefer to hack my own solutions together than to buy them.

    Also I'd prefer not to share my infinite money with tech giants. If I wanted to _buy_ a solution, I'd rather hire somebody to hack something together instead of purchasing a premade appliance from a tech giant.




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  • From Nelgin@618:250/19 to Arelor on Wed Dec 30 22:37:38 2020
    Arelor wrote:

    Also I'd prefer not to share my infinite money with tech giants. If I wanted to
    _buy_ a solution, I'd rather hire somebody to hack something together instead of purchasing a premade appliance from a tech giant.

    They will just buy gear from a tech giant, add %20 and then charge you extra for the privilege.
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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Nelgin on Thu Dec 31 08:18:13 2020
    Re: Re: No traffic.
    By: Nelgin to Arelor on Wed Dec 30 2020 10:37 pm

    Arelor wrote:

    Also I'd prefer not to share my infinite money with tech giants. If I wanted to
    _buy_ a solution, I'd rather hire somebody to hack something together instead of purchasing a premade appliance from a tech giant.

    They will just buy gear from a tech giant, add %20 and then charge you ex for the privilege.

    Not really

    When somebody hires me to hack something together I usually dig into a
    dumpster or buy some used stuff for 5 bucks.

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  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to Arelor on Thu Dec 31 08:55:35 2020
    When somebody hires me to hack something together I usually dig into a dumpster or buy some used stuff for 5 bucks.

    Bob Roberts
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  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to Arelor on Thu Dec 31 09:03:52 2020
    When somebody hires me to hack something together I usually dig into
    a dumpster or buy some used stuff for 5 bucks.
    Bob Roberts

    Sorry.... bad reply.

    It's the build vs. buy argument. I would rather buy a solution if building it isn't worth my time. I want to spend my time doing things I enjoy, or earn income. It's all about resources.

    Bob Roberts
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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Dec 30 20:11:00 2020
    Hello Kurt!

    ** On Wednesday 30.12.20 - 07:12, Kurt Weiske wrote to Bob Roberts:

    Mmmm. For me it a high-end home automation system. TV's
    with distributed video everywhere. Top of the line
    dedicated home theater, whole house audio and lighting
    control.

    I think my wife would vote for a system like Sonos where we
    could get music in every room of the house and in our (soon
    to be complete) back yard.

    Wasn't there a ban on wifi in schools in specific countries in
    Europe? Health problems seemed to surface when the kids were
    exposed to wifi all day.


    ...And someone to rip all of her CDs to MP3.

    Easier to just sign up to Spotify.

    I considered the same CD->MP3 project too, until I calculated
    just how much time it would take and the extra HDD/SDD expense
    (and the resources for backups) that it would require to store
    the rips of over 2000 CDs

    I started with a 99cents for 3-months trial in November 2018.

    For a change of pace, I do still play CDs from time to time. I
    have a 5-disc carousel model in which I can play everything
    randomly and be pleasantly surprised every time.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.48
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  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to August Abolins on Thu Dec 31 13:16:28 2020
    For a change of pace, I do still play CDs from time to time. I
    have a 5-disc carousel model in which I can play everything
    randomly and be pleasantly surprised every time.

    I have one of these in storage and I keep thinking I should get it out and hook it up... but I never do. It's just too easy to pull up any random thing on Spotify or Apple Music.

    My favorite feature of Spotify is the music discovery. Their personally generated playlists are really great at discovering new music and bands I would never discover otherwise.

    Back when buying CDs was a thing, I would have to goto obscure record shops and hunt around in the Genre buckets for new stuff. Now there are machine learning algorhythms studying the listening habits of millions of users and generating recommedations. They work pretty well and have brought tons of new discovery my way.

    Bob Roberts
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  • From Nick Andre@618:500/24 to Bob Roberts on Thu Dec 31 17:39:33 2020
    On 31 Dec 20 13:16:28, Bob Roberts said the following to August Abolins:

    Back when buying CDs was a thing, I would have to goto obscure record shops and hunt around in the Genre buckets for new stuff. Now there are machine learning algorhythms studying the listening habits of millions of users and generating recommedations. They work pretty well and have brought tons of discovery my way.

    I've always been a fan of XM radio and thats really all the streaming I do, aside from odd stuff on the government-listening Amazon echo's.

    As far as vinyl and CD's I have a fairly comprehensive collection of really everything but always had a soft spot for different/weird/oddities.

    Have a huge collection of 80's/90's dance, new-wave, remixes etc.

    Nick

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  • From Steve Wolf@618:250/1 to Kurt Weiske on Thu Dec 31 07:43:19 2020
    Re: Re: No traffic.
    By: Kurt Weiske to Steve Wolf on Wed Dec 30 2020 07:14 am

    I dunno? All that tech stuff seems great but I'm pretty content with
    my 27 inch TV and laptop. ;-)

    I think back to my one-bedroom apartment and lament about how easy it
    was to network it. I'm on two floors now, with a cable modem
    downstairs, 2 wifi extenders for the media devices and laptops, and a Powerline network connecting the BBS and my desktop to the router...

    Sounds like too much "stuff". Time to get a new house so you can get more "stuff". ;-)
    "George Carlin"

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  • From Nelgin@618:250/19 to August Abolins on Thu Dec 31 20:48:20 2020
    August wrote:
    I considered the same CD->MP3 project too, until I calculated
    just how much time it would take and the extra HDD/SDD expense
    (and the resources for backups) that it would require to store
    the rips of over 2000 CDs

    Just use something like Soulseek and download them rather than rip them. :)
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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to Bob Roberts on Tue Dec 29 23:05:00 2020
    Bob,

    Shoot, and I thought my 2 CPU VM was overkill. :-)
    The Ferengi could really move fast with 4000 CPUs.

    The females can strip and redress really quick. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From August Abolins@618:510/1.1 to Bob Roberts on Fri Jan 1 19:56:00 2021
    Hello Bob!

    ** On Thursday 31.12.20 - 13:16, Bob Roberts wrote to August Abolins:

    For a change of pace, I do still play CDs from time to time. I
    have a 5-disc carousel model in which I can play everything
    randomly and be pleasantly surprised every time.

    I have one of these in storage and I keep thinking I should get it out
    and hook it up... but I never do. It's just too easy to pull up any random thing on Spotify or Apple Music.

    In my case, I don't stream Spotify at home, because I only have
    mobile data from my phone as a hotspot for internet. The Spotify
    stream would consume my monthly quota with just a few albums.

    CD carousel is my only way to enjoy house-filling sound.

    One day, I would like to dedicate an old laptop as the Spotify
    server with collections that I have pulled for offline play
    (Spotify allows this). And when I want new music for offline
    play, simply take the laptop with me to my DSL service at the
    shop in town.


    My favorite feature of Spotify is the music discovery.
    Their personally generated playlists are really great at
    discovering new music and bands I would never discover
    otherwise.

    I agree. The discovery suggestions have been fun to try out.


    Back when buying CDs was a thing, I would have to goto
    obscure record shops and hunt around in the Genre buckets
    for new stuff. Now there are machine learning algorhythms
    studying the listening habits of millions of users and
    generating recommedations. They work pretty well and have
    brought tons of new discovery my way.

    My 2000+ collection acts almost like that now! I have piles of
    CDs: some in boxes, some in towers on the floor, some in
    dedicated CD tower displays, some in CD drawers. When I scan
    through them randomly I discover something new every time. LOL

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to August Abolins on Sat Jan 2 10:37:39 2021
    One day, I would like to dedicate an old laptop as the Spotify
    server with collections that I have pulled for offline play
    (Spotify allows this). And when I want new music for offline
    play, simply take the laptop with me to my DSL service at the
    shop in town.

    Just wanted to note you could do this with a phone or tablet as well, both allow you to cache offline spotify libraries.

    Bob Roberts
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    * Origin: Halls of Valhalla -=- San Francisco (618:300/36)
  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to August Abolins on Sat Jan 2 10:39:01 2021
    My 2000+ collection acts almost like that now! I have piles of
    CDs: some in boxes, some in towers on the floor, some in
    dedicated CD tower displays, some in CD drawers. When I scan
    through them randomly I discover something new every time. LOL

    (hit save too soon on the previous message)

    I do miss being able to sit cross legged on the floor and look at all the CD's on the shelf, resorting ones that had been replaced incorrectly, and "remembering" CDs I had long forgotten.

    Bob Roberts
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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Nelgin on Thu Dec 31 08:45:00 2020
    Nelgin wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Unfortunately it was only CAT5 and not CAT6. Maybe next time I get the roof done, I'll rerun a new cable.

    Old cables act as pull strings for new cables. :)



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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to August Abolins on Sat Jan 2 09:28:00 2021
    August Abolins wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Wasn't there a ban on wifi in schools in specific countries in
    Europe? Health problems seemed to surface when the kids were
    exposed to wifi all day.

    I'd heard that too, there is a little coastal town in California
    that's rallied to keep Wifi and cell signals out of their town. It
    makes for a nice retreat from tech.


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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Bob Roberts on Sat Jan 2 10:45:00 2021
    Bob Roberts wrote to Arelor <=-

    It's the build vs. buy argument. I would rather buy a solution if building it isn't worth my time. I want to spend my time doing things
    I enjoy, or earn income. It's all about resources.

    Back in the day, I consulted for startups. I'd have a lot of fun buying a couple of cheap servers, throwing Linux, Sendmail, IMAP/POP, jabber, IRC, LDAP, Samba and Apache, and setting up a F/OSS corporate linux stack for email, groupware, chat and intranet. Later, I ended up setting up
    Microsoft's Small Business Server and doing all the same on one box with Exchange/Sharepoint/etc.

    Now, it's cheaper and easier to just buy Google apps and a domain name.

    I still enjoyed building it from scratch more... :)

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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Bob Roberts on Sat Jan 2 11:54:00 2021
    Bob Roberts wrote to August Abolins <=-

    I have one of these in storage and I keep thinking I should get it out
    and hook it up... but I never do. It's just too easy to pull up any random thing on Spotify or Apple Music.

    I do the same thing with the "do I want to dig out my DVD or just watch the on-demand version of the movie I want to watch?" question.


    ... Change specifics to ambiguities
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  • From Warpslide@618:500/23 to Bob Roberts on Sat Jan 2 21:03:09 2021
    On 02 Jan 2021, Bob Roberts said the following...

    I do miss being able to sit cross legged on the floor and look at all
    the CD'son the shelf, resorting ones that had been replaced incorrectly, and"remembering" CDs I had long forgotten.

    The worst was when you opened a case & found the wrong CD in there (or no CD at all). Sometimes you would go to the case of the CD you found & find the correct disc, or other times it sends you on a wild goose chase.

    Jay

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    * Origin: Northern Realms (618:500/23)
  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to Kurt Weiske on Sat Jan 2 22:09:04 2021
    Now, it's cheaper and easier to just buy Google apps and a domain name.
    I still enjoyed building it from scratch more... :)

    My favorite thing about hosting email with Google Suite or Office 365 is you can point the finger at them when the email goes down... and you don't have to worry about backups.

    Bob Roberts
    --- SBBSecho 3.12-Linux
    * Origin: Halls of Valhalla -=- San Francisco (618:300/36)
  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to Warpslide on Sat Jan 2 22:10:43 2021
    The worst was when you opened a case & found the wrong CD in there (or no CD at all). Sometimes you
    would go to the case of the CD you found & find the correct disc, or other times it sends you on a
    wild goose chase.

    ...Lord of the Rings Blu-Ray Disk 5 is never in the slot for 5. It's always in 4 or 6!

    Bob Roberts
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    * Origin: Halls of Valhalla -=- San Francisco (618:300/36)
  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Warpslide on Sun Jan 3 09:30:00 2021
    Hello Warpslide!

    ** On Saturday 02.01.21 - 21:03, Warpslide wrote to Bob Roberts:

    The worst was when you opened a case & found the wrong CD in
    there (or no CD at all). Sometimes you would go to the case
    of the CD you found & find the correct disc, or other times
    it sends you on a wild goose chase.

    That only started to happen to me when I got a vehicle with a CD
    player. I'd take the CD out of the hard case and refile them
    into a soft-carry storage holder that I would use in the car.

    After a while, some of the previously empty cases would get mixed
    in with the usual collection.

    To this day (10 years later), I still haven't found a few of the
    correct cases for the CDs that I'd like to put away properly.
    But thankfully, it is just a few.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.48
    * Origin: (} Pointy McPointface (618:250/1.9)
  • From Warpslide@618:500/23 to August Abolins on Sun Jan 3 11:02:01 2021
    On 03 Jan 2021, August Abolins said the following...

    After a while, some of the previously empty cases would get mixed
    in with the usual collection.

    To this day (10 years later), I still haven't found a few of the
    correct cases for the CDs that I'd like to put away properly.
    But thankfully, it is just a few.

    Sometimes when a CD went missing I just needed to look in my sister's stereo in her room to find it. This became more of a problem when portable CD players (like the Discman) became more popular, then my CD's went to school with my sister.

    This became less of an issue once my sister and I had our own Columbia House subscriptions and could get our own CDs.

    Once I got a decent pair of speakers for my computer & discovered Audiograbber to make MP3s from my CDs, I didn't care as much about the actual disc anymore, unless like you said, I was in my car.

    Getting a CD burner so I could make my own custom discs made that even less important, and made me quite a bit of money in High School. ;)

    Jay

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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Bob Roberts on Sun Jan 3 09:19:00 2021
    Bob Roberts wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    My favorite thing about hosting email with Google Suite or Office 365
    is you can point the finger at them when the email goes down... and
    you don't have to worry about backups.

    Yeah, I'm trying to convince my wife to bring in someone to convert their highly legacy on-prem old hardware (COMPAQ BRANDED SERVERS?) to O365.
    They're non-technical, the office is closed, and they suffer from power outages.

    They're a non-profit, and Microsoft has some great programs for them - I
    think the first 20 seats are free. Then, to be able to add Sharepoint and Teams for communicating, as they're all remote now, would be great.

    G suite might be easier - it used to be that Exchange and Outlook were a
    safe bet since everyone had used them at one point and had some familiarity, but the same could be said of Gmail now.


    ... Change nothing and continue consistently
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  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to Warpslide on Sun Jan 3 10:10:45 2021
    This became less of an issue once my sister and I had our own Columbia House subscriptions and could get our own CDs.

    I was just thinking about this last night! Remember the sticker sheets the would email, and you could get 10 CD's for a penny, but only if you bought 5 more at full price in a year? I would sit there are carefully tear off the ones I wanted, trying to figure out what the best 10 would be, prioritizing them. After you signed up waiting waiting for that folded cardboard box with the stack of CDs. So exciting! Then they would mail you a card and you'd have to decline whatever garbage they wanted to send you.

    I was in a Science Fiction book club that operated the same way. The books were all hard covers, but they were specially printed for the club and you could tell from the size they were "club editions" so the used book shop wouldn't give as much in trade for them.

    Getting a CD burner so I could make my own custom discs made that even less important, and made me quite a bit of money in High School. ;)

    I recall scouring the internet for CDRW specs, trying to find the best drive which could rip fast and with accuracy, while also writing all the various formats. For awhile Sony would be the best, then it would be someone else. It was so exiciting to make the jump from 4x to 8x writing. Then pretty soon you have 24x.

    Buying CDRs in bulk from strange internet sites that got them direct from Tokyo where the best ones were made. Verbatium blue bottoms were my prize. Then spindles started showing up at best buy. "50 CDRWs for $16! But they are cheap ones. I'll get them anyways for dumb stuff, but I'll keep my Verbatium blue bottoms for important things." Buying big stacks of jewel cases and snapping them together. I still have some spindles I never used. I bet they are long rotted. I probably have a thousand CDRs in stacks that are all useless now.

    Bob Roberts
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    * Origin: Halls of Valhalla -=- San Francisco (618:300/36)
  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to Kurt Weiske on Sun Jan 3 10:26:35 2021
    Yeah, I'm trying to convince my wife to bring in someone to convert their highly legacy on-prem old hardware (COMPAQ BRANDED SERVERS?) to O365. They're non-technical, the office is closed, and they suffer from power outages.

    G suite might be easier - it used to be that Exchange and Outlook were a safe bet since everyone had used them at one point and had some familiarity, but the same could be said of Gmail now.

    When I was at a plucky bay area startup, everything was GSuite. Developers would actually ask if we used Google Suite during interviews. The only people who had Office subscriptions were the Proposals team that had to submit word docs. And of course Accounting, who insisted they must have Excel. The rest of the company was google drive, docs and sheets. So easy to manage. No file servers or anything to worry about.

    Bob Roberts
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    * Origin: Halls of Valhalla -=- San Francisco (618:300/36)
  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to August Abolins on Sun Jan 3 13:07:28 2021
    Re: No traffic.
    By: August Abolins to Warpslide on Sun Jan 03 2021 09:30 am

    Hello Warpslide!

    ** On Saturday 02.01.21 - 21:03, Warpslide wrote to Bob Roberts:

    The worst was when you opened a case & found the wrong CD in
    there (or no CD at all). Sometimes you would go to the case
    of the CD you found & find the correct disc, or other times
    it sends you on a wild goose chase.

    That only started to happen to me when I got a vehicle with a CD
    player. I'd take the CD out of the hard case and refile them
    into a soft-carry storage holder that I would use in the car.

    After a while, some of the previously empty cases would get mixed
    in with the usual collection.

    To this day (10 years later), I still haven't found a few of the
    correct cases for the CDs that I'd like to put away properly.
    But thankfully, it is just a few.

    --
    ../|ug

    I don't use original CDs in the car. I don't want them to get damaged due to cold or heat. I just clone the CD and have a collection of copies in the car.

    --
    gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken
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  • From Nelgin@618:250/19 to Bob Roberts on Sun Jan 3 18:11:29 2021
    Bob wrote:
    Now, it's cheaper and easier to just buy Google apps and a domain name. I still enjoyed building it from scratch more... :)

    My favorite thing about hosting email with Google Suite or Office 365 is you can point the finger at them when the email goes down... and you don't have to worry about backups.

    My company has just converted to me gmail and I hate it. It's no inflexible. There's no "recall" message option. You can't recorder your mailboxes on the left side other than by stupid numbering of them. Just a bunch of stuff you can't do that was easy with Outlook. Considering I can get over 100 emails per day, it's putting a bit of a strain on my productivity while I try and find ways to battle around these things.

    I have a personal gmail account only because I was forced to create one with
    my Google G1 phone.
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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Nelgin on Sun Jan 3 20:03:00 2021
    Hello Nelgin!

    ** On Sunday 03.01.21 - 18:11, Nelgin wrote to Bob Roberts:

    My company has just converted to me gmail and I hate it. It's no inflexible. There's no "recall" message option. You can't recorder your mailboxes on the left side other than by stupid numbering of them. Just a bunch of stuff you can't do that was easy with Outlook. Considering I can get over 100 emails per day, it's putting a bit of a strain on my productivity while I try and find ways to battle around these things.

    I just checked in my Gmail.. and noticed that I still have the
    extra folders that I created from years ago.

    Gmail calls those things "labels". You create a label, and then
    assign any emails you want to that label. It's effectively a
    folder. The benefit is that those newly labelled messages will
    then not clutter your standard Inbox.

    I can create text labels. I don't know why you are limited to
    just numbering them.

    And you also just need to gain confidence to use their filtering
    features. That could help organizing things for you.

    The UNSEND feature is pretty cool.
    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.48
    * Origin: (} Pointy McPointface (618:250/1.9)
  • From Nelgin@618:250/19 to August Abolins on Mon Jan 4 01:47:15 2021
    August wrote:
    Gmail calls those things "labels". You create a label, and then
    assign any emails you want to that label. It's effectively a
    folder. The benefit is that those newly labelled messages will
    then not clutter your standard Inbox.

    Under my INBOX I have a list of folders for each year with critical emails I want to keep so
    INBOX
    2013
    2014
    2015

    etc...

    Then I have a list of companies I support in the order of most contacted or important. Not always in alphabetical order. Some I never hear from are at the bottom.

    I can create text labels. I don't know why you are limited to
    just numbering them.
    Yes, I know how they work, but you cannot change the order from alphabetical unless you use a numbering system in certain circumstances.


    The UNSEND feature is pretty cool.
    Only for upto 30 seconds it is, and then it isn't.
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  • From Bob Roberts@618:300/36 to Nelgin on Mon Jan 4 09:43:49 2021
    My company has just converted to me gmail and I hate it. It's no inflexible. There's no "recall" message option. You can't recorder your mailboxes on the left side other than by stupid numbering of them. Just a bunch of stuff you can't do that was easy with Outlook. Considering I can get over 100 emails per day, it's putting a bit of a strain on my productivity while I try and find ways to battle around these things.

    Whenever I get that message "<username> would like to recall the message <blah>" I always laugh and make it a point to find the message and read it.

    You can use Outlook as a client for Gmail. It works ok. I think Gmail's web interface is pretty good, but there are utilities like Mailplane for Gmail that add more functionality. Gmail's ability to search is really good. When I was forced in the opposite direction (converstion from Gmail to O365) I really missed the Gmail Search.

    Both O365 and Gmail are fine email / office suite offerings.


    Bob Roberts
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    * Origin: Halls of Valhalla -=- San Francisco (618:300/36)
  • From Utopian Galt@618:250/28 to Arelor on Fri Feb 12 23:42:46 2021
    On 12/28/2020 4:00 AM, Arelor wrote to Utopian Galt:


    Something fine, like "I won the lotto, so now I am migrating my BBS to a proper
    server farm with 4000 CPUs"?
    Not exactlty happy times, but he's still around.
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v7.0
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