I can't connect to it, is it down?
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Sean wrote:

Hello everyone,

I would like to invite you all to Micronet's official IRC channel at irc.bbses.info/6667 in #micronet. I'm now in the channel all the time using ZNC (my nick is digimaus) and Andrew is also there as bitbyter. Please come in and chat!

You can also hang out in #bbs to talk to other sysops.

All are welcome! This isn't just for sysops.

And this is why the echoes are dead.
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Re: Micronet IRC
By: mlong to Sean Dennis on Tue Dec 29 2020 05:19 am

I can't connect to it, is it down?

I am connected right now and it works so far.

irc.bbses.info:6667 with no TLS enabled.
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Hello Nelgin!

** On Tuesday 29.12.20 - 02:36, Nelgin wrote to Sean Dennis:

Sean wrote:

I would like to invite you all to Micronet's official IRC channel at
irc.bbses.info/6667 in #micronet. I'm now in the channel all the time
using ZNC (my nick is digimaus) and Andrew is also there as bitbyter.
Please come in and chat!

You can also hang out in #bbs to talk to other sysops.

All are welcome! This isn't just for sysops.

And this is why the echoes are dead.

Are you saying that IRC is discouraging posting to the echoes? I
dunno.. perhaps IRC satisfies the appeal of being "live" online
with other people. There is nothing that precludes those same
people (or others) to post in the echos in the meantime.

The closest to live chat that I care to have is what I get out of
Telegram. You can strike up a convo with someone, and walk away
and have dinner or something and come back later from where you
left off. No pressure to reply in real-time, although the option
is there.

How are IRC folks here accessing IRC? Is it via smartphones/
tablets?

Maybe Micronet could experiment with a Telegram presence (linking
up an echo or two) as an adjunct to IRC? ;) The result would
entertain the live aspect of IRC yet still retain the standard
messaging experience too.

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Re: Micronet IRC
By: August Abolins to Nelgin on Tue Dec 29 2020 09:44 am

Hello Nelgin!

** On Tuesday 29.12.20 - 02:36, Nelgin wrote to Sean Dennis:

Sean wrote:

I would like to invite you all to Micronet's official IRC channel at
irc.bbses.info/6667 in #micronet. I'm now in the channel all the time
using ZNC (my nick is digimaus) and Andrew is also there as bitbyter.
Please come in and chat!

You can also hang out in #bbs to talk to other sysops.

All are welcome! This isn't just for sysops.

And this is why the echoes are dead.

Are you saying that IRC is discouraging posting to the echoes? I
dunno.. perhaps IRC satisfies the appeal of being "live" online
with other people. There is nothing that precludes those same
people (or others) to post in the echos in the meantime.

The closest to live chat that I care to have is what I get out of
Telegram. You can strike up a convo with someone, and walk away
and have dinner or something and come back later from where you
left off. No pressure to reply in real-time, although the option
is there.

How are IRC folks here accessing IRC? Is it via smartphones/
tablets?

Maybe Micronet could experiment with a Telegram presence (linking
up an echo or two) as an adjunct to IRC? ;) The result would
entertain the live aspect of IRC yet still retain the standard
messaging experience too.

--
../|ug

I use an irssi client running on a remote shell server 24/7 for accesing IRC. It works great.

I think messaging and BBSing are different things, scratch different itches, and don't overlap that much.

IRC is for quick questions or issues that don't take much detail to discuss (ie: "can you tell me where to find the man page for $program?"). BBSing allows for deeper discussions since you have more time to write your posts and can elaborate longer, meaningful replies.

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August wrote:

Hello Nelgin!

And this is why the echoes are dead.

Are you saying that IRC is discouraging posting to the echoes? I
dunno.. perhaps IRC satisfies the appeal of being "live" online
with other people. There is nothing that precludes those same
people (or others) to post in the echos in the meantime.

Possibly. In the world of instant gratification that the internet has provided us, why bother posting and waiting possibly days for 1 or 2 relies, or maybe none at all? Just hope on IRC, talk real time, idle in a channel and catch up with the chat later.

The closest to live chat that I care to have is what I get out of
Telegram. You can strike up a convo with someone, and walk away
and have dinner or something and come back later from where you
left off. No pressure to reply in real-time, although the option
is there.

How are IRC folks here accessing IRC? Is it via smartphones/
tablets?

I use mIRC and I'm only in the #synchronet channel in irc.synchro.net though I use other networks for other purposes...like instant gratification :)

Maybe Micronet could experiment with a Telegram presence (linking
up an echo or two) as an adjunct to IRC? ;) The result would
entertain the live aspect of IRC yet still retain the standard
messaging experience too.

Lord no. Still, if I said "make them do it the old fashioned way" I'd be told to pull out my modem and dial up to a BBS rather than posting via an nntp usenet client :)
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Hello Arelor!

** On Tuesday 29.12.20 - 10:06, Arelor wrote to August Abolins:

I use an irssi client running on a remote shell server 24/7
for accesing IRC. It works great.

Thanks. I may have to look that up and figure it out. For now, I
am mobile-dataless until Jan 4. :(

I think messaging and BBSing are different things, scratch
different itches, and don't overlap that much.

So, do you call IRC=messaging, and BBSing=discussions?

IRC is for quick questions or issues that don't take much
detail to discuss (ie: "can you tell me where to find the man
page for $program?"). BBSing allows for deeper discussions
since you have more time to write your posts and can
elaborate longer, meaningful replies.

There is definately a distinction when doing "messaging" on a tablet/smartphone via the apps .vs. decent offline methods and
editors via a BBS. But the JamNNTP server solution that anyone
can use with Thunderbird or a similar email program isn't too
shabby at all.

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Well thanks for the not so warm welcome in your irc network...I regret I tried it and didn't miss much. I think I'll just stick to the echo
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Re: Micronet IRC
By: August Abolins to Arelor on Wed Dec 30 2020 07:54 pm

I think messaging and BBSing are different things, scratch
different itches, and don't overlap that much.

So, do you call IRC=messaging, and BBSing=discussions?

In my mind, "messaging" is short for "Instant Messaging", where you have realtime
conversations, at least in theory.

Actually, a lot of people leaves idle IRC clients so answers to questions can pop up
with an hour of delay or more, but the IRC/XMPP format is tailored for realtime while
something like NNTP or BBS is tailored for async conversations.

I do a lot of both and they scratch different itches.

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Re: Micronet IRC
By: mlong to Sean Dennis on Thu Dec 31 2020 05:45 pm

Well thanks for the not so warm welcome in your irc network...I regret I tri it and didn't miss much. I think I'll just stick to the echo

that's not his irc network, that's mine.

all you do is sit there and never talk. you never said anything.
EVER. you never said anything, you just parked your ass there all the time.

even when you login i say hi and no reply.

Don't come back, dipshit.
You're welcome.
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Jas Hud wrote to mlong <=-

Well thanks for the not so warm welcome in your irc network...I regret I tri it and didn't miss much. I think I'll just stick to the echo

that's not his irc network, that's mine.

all you do is sit there and never talk. you never said anything.
EVER. you never said anything, you just parked your ass there all
the time.

even when you login i say hi and no reply.

Don't come back, dipshit.
You're welcome.

Ahhhh, good ole "MRO" of Dovenet fame.

Asshole.



... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.
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Re: Micronet IRC
By: mlong to Sean Dennis on Thu Dec 31 2020 05:45 pm

that's not his irc network, that's mine.

all you do is sit there and never talk. you never said anything.
EVER. you never said anything, you just parked your ass there all the time.

even when you login i say hi and no reply.

Don't come back, dipshit.
You're welcome.

Ahh well if your IRC server wasn't such shit, maybe it would actually be online sometimes. I tried on several occasions to connect to it, but it never would. I forgot to take it out of my IRC program, and by some miracle, it did connect later. But I didn't know it, and I never saw any notifications from you. I see now its your server, but the "official micronet IRC channel". That is really the only reason I visited. No loss though. Have fun being a jackass
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all you do is sit there and never talk. you never said anything.
EVER. you never said anything, you just parked your ass there all the time.

even when you login i say hi and no reply.

I do want to add that if I had known I was connected and saw your msgs, I would chatted and would have loved to chat. I don't see there ignoring people on purpose. And thank you for reaching out to let me know what happened (I saw your text, email, and new user msg).
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Re: Re: Micronet IRC
By: Gamgee to Jas Hud on Fri Jan 01 2021 09:48 am

Jas Hud wrote to mlong <=-

Well thanks for the not so warm welcome in your irc network...I regret I it and didn't miss much. I think I'll just stick to the echo

that's not his irc network, that's mine.

all you do is sit there and never talk. you never said anything.
EVER. you never said anything, you just parked your ass there all
the time.

even when you login i say hi and no reply.

Don't come back, dipshit.
You're welcome.

Ahhhh, good ole "MRO" of Dovenet fame.

Asshole.

... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.
=== MultiMail/Linux v0.52

takes one to know one, and you've got me beat on the asshole thing.
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Re: Micronet IRC
By: mlong to Jas Hud on Fri Jan 01 2021 08:55 pm

Re: Micronet IRC
By: mlong to Sean Dennis on Thu Dec 31 2020 05:45 pm

that's not his irc network, that's mine.

all you do is sit there and never talk. you never said anything.
EVER. you never said anything, you just parked your ass there all the time

even when you login i say hi and no reply.

Don't come back, dipshit.
You're welcome.

Ahh well if your IRC server wasn't such shit, maybe it would actually be onl sometimes. I tried on several occasions to connect to it, but it never would forgot to take it out of my IRC program, and by some miracle, it did connect later. But I didn't know it, and I never saw any notifications from you. I s now its your server, but the "official micronet IRC channel". That is really the only reason I visited. No loss though. Have fun being a jackass

you were always in the #bbs channel. you never repliedto anybody. you never said anything ever. dont know why you'd even go there.

the reason the server didnt work for you sometimes is because i was putting your ip into the firewall.

people can be in the micronet channel, i dont care about that.
bbs people can make channels on the server.

everyone doesnt like people that idle and never talk and log
conversations.
we're a close knit group of friends.

bbses.info is closed. i dont provide services to bbs people anymore.
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Re: Micronet IRC
By: mlong to Jas Hud on Fri Jan 01 2021 09:03 pm

all you do is sit there and never talk. you never said anything.
EVER. you never said anything, you just parked your ass there all the time.

even when you login i say hi and no reply.

I do want to add that if I had known I was connected and saw your msgs, I would chatted and would have loved to chat. I don't see there ignoring people on purpose. And thank you for reaching out to let me know what happened (I saw your text, email, and new user msg).

i do not follow micronet or any bbs msg networks. so posting here
normally wont get my attention.

i did not get any reply back from you via email and txt.

i got a lot of complaints over the years about people who sit on irc and never talk and just log conversations. sometimes people know that because sometimes
sensative information is posted by accident on irc.

so if someone logs in and doesnt say hi and never talks, i normally block their ip after several attempts at contacting them.

i also have an attacker that uses mibbit so i block that.

sorry if you were misled; i allow anybody to make their own channel, but in the channel you were in i get rid of people that do not participate due to past complaints.
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Jas wrote:

Don't come back, dipshit.
You're welcome.

Grow up, or delink.

SECTION I: General Policies
3. Do not incite, flame, or otherwise rile anyone up in any of the public
echoes in Micronet....Bad behavior is NOT tolerated in
Micronet and is dealt with swiftly and without mercy.

4. If you have a disagreement with someone, move it to netmail or email.
Do NOT duke it out in public. Act your age, not your shoe size. See
the above policy about bad behavior.
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So MRO and I have both had our say and I'm moving on and putting it behind me. I've reached out to him personally in email to say the same. I'm not going to hold any bad feelings or resentment. I'm going to respect his right to run his IRC server as he wishes
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Re: Micronet IRC
By: Jas Hud to mlong on Fri Jan 01 2021 01:35 pm

0C0 > bbses.info is closed. i dont provide services to bbs people anymore.

LIES!!

I can name 4 sighstems you are hosting for bbs people!
Just cause the website is closed does not mean your out of the game.
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