Anyone else using Multimail under windows?

Seems like recently, past few months maybe, mm.exe has been randomly
crashing under Windows 10. The desktop disappears, and then I noticed
that it left a mm.exe thread out there running (tried to delete a temp directory and it was locked by that process). It seems like it does it
during the unpacking/repacking process.

Sometimes I can kill the rogue mm.exe and rerun and it works fine.
Other times it refuses to unpack (qwk) or pack (rep) and I have to
clear all the work files and try it again.

Just wanted to see if anyone else was having similar issues.

(And it just happened on this reply, when I exited the editor it
crashed... but the reply was retained).

Kev

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Kevin Nunn wrote to All <=-

Just wanted to see if anyone else was having similar issues.

I've never had that issue and use it daily on win10/64bit. I'm using
0.52/64bit version of multimail.

Shawn

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Tiny wrote to Kevin Nunn <=-

I've never had that issue and use it daily on win10/64bit. I'm using
0.52/64bit version of multimail.

What do you guys do for a text editor with MultiMail? a word-wrapping, GUI windowed text editor just doesn't seem right in context. I used to use my
old DOS editors in 32-bit XP, but can't with 64-bit Windows.


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Kevin,

Anyone else using Multimail under windows?

I am under Windows 10 64-bit. Rarely do I have a problem with it.

Daryl

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Kurt Weiske wrote to Tiny <=-

What do you guys do for a text editor with MultiMail? a word-wrapping,
GUI windowed text editor just doesn't seem right in context. I used to
use my old DOS editors in 32-bit XP, but can't with 64-bit Windows.

I'm using the console version of tse pro. But would prefer to use a dos
editor that I really like. Just haven't had time to figure out that whole
rigamarole to do it.

Shawn

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Tiny wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

I'm using the console version of tse pro. But would prefer to use a
dos editor that I really like.

I tried, I'm a Qedit user (predecessor to TSE) and like the Wordstar ^k command set. There are a couple of 32-bit editors that can mimic it, but

a) they're ugly.

b) I've got 50+ year old eyes, and I like to run 80x25 full screen. I don't see a way to make a Windows command prompt run that way.


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I tried, I'm a Qedit user (predecessor to TSE) and like the Wordstar ^k command set. There are a couple of 32-bit editors that can mimic it, but

a) they're ugly.

b) I've got 50+ year old eyes, and I like to run 80x25 full screen. I don't see a way to make a Windows command prompt run that way.

Does DOSBOX run on Windows 64 bit machines? Qedit works in both dosemu and DOSBOX on my linux 64-bit machine. I am using SLMR with Qedit on my linux 64-bit machine, in an 80x25 window, to type this response. :)

Mike

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Hello Kurt!

** On Sunday 10.01.21 - 09:15, Kurt Weiske wrote to Tiny:

b) I've got 50+ year old eyes, and I like to run 80x25 full screen. I don't see a way to make a Windows command prompt run that way.

In Windows.. can't you configure the behaviouf of CMD to run
"Full Screen" via right-click Properties? I can do that here.


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TINY wrote to KEVIN NUNN <=-

I've never had that issue and use it daily on win10/64bit. I'm using
0.52/64bit version of multimail.

That could be my issue, I am still using the one I grabbed many years
ago, .49 I believe. I'll look for the new version and distribute it to
my machines and see if that helps.

Kev

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KURT WEISKE wrote to TINY <=-

What do you guys do for a text editor with MultiMail? a word-wrapping,
GUI windowed text editor just doesn't seem right in context. I used to
use my old DOS editors in 32-bit XP, but can't with 64-bit Windows.

I use FTE, it's the same editor I used back in the day and it seems to
work fine. I still use it to edit batch files and such.

Kev

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Re: Re: MMail and Windows
By: Mike Powell to KURT WEISKE on Sun Jan 10 2021 04:32 pm

Does DOSBOX run on Windows 64 bit machines? Qedit works in both dosemu and DOSBOX on my linux 64-bit machine. I am using SLMR with Qedit on my linux 64-bit machine, in an 80x25 window, to type this response. :)

Yes, DOSBOX does run in an 80x25 window, full screen in 64-bit Windows 10. Using Qedit, too. :)
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Re: MMail and Windows
By: August Abolins to Kurt Weiske on Sun Jan 10 2021 05:27 pm

In Windows.. can't you configure the behaviouf of CMD to run
"Full Screen" via right-click Properties? I can do that here.

I can, but I get the same size windowed font with a full screen window.
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Hello Kurt!

** On Sunday 10.01.21 - 20:16, Kurt Weiske wrote to August Abolins:

In Windows.. can't you configure the behaviouf of CMD to run
"Full Screen" via right-click Properties? I can do that here.

I can, but I get the same size windowed font with a full screen window.

Then.. what's the problem then? I thought you said you *can't*
do the full screen mode for the command prompt. If you can open
the CMD full screen, what's the problem with that?


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Kurt Weiske wrote to Tiny <=-

b) I've got 50+ year old eyes, and I like to run 80x25 full screen. I don't see a way to make a Windows command prompt run that way.

I made the cmd window bigger and increased the font size. Failing that
I throw on the readers. ;) But like you I do have MM/dos installed and
bluewave in dosbox if I am having a day where I need full screen.

Shawn

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Kevin Nunn wrote to Tiny <=-

I've never had that issue and use it daily on win10/64bit. I'm using
0.52/64bit version of multimail.

That could be my issue, I am still using the one I grabbed many years
ago, .49 I believe. I'll look for the new version and distribute it to
my machines and see if that helps.

Let us know if it did. Curiousity and all that.

Shawn

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On 10 Jan 2021, Kurt Weiske said the following...

Yes, DOSBOX does run in an 80x25 window, full screen in 64-bit Windows 10.Using Qedit, too. :)

Does DOSBOX support copying & pasting to/from Windows? I was trying out BlueWave again (because why not) - But when I tried pasting in a URL it didn't seem to be supported.


Jay

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August Abolins wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

I can, but I get the same size windowed font with a full screen window.

Then.. what's the problem then? I thought you said you *can't*
do the full screen mode for the command prompt. If you can open
the CMD full screen, what's the problem with that?

With the command prompt I get a full screen window with little 10-point font in the corner. DOSBOX offers a full screen 25x80 text console where the text takes up the whole screen.


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Warpslide wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

Does DOSBOX support copying & pasting to/from Windows? I was trying
out BlueWave again (because why not) - But when I tried pasting in a
URL it didn't seem to be supported.

I think vDOS does. What I end up doing is going into Windows, creating a
text file with Notepad, copying the text into it, saving it in my DOS root, then reading the file into my text editor. It looks like there's some copy/paste functionality built in to DOSBOX 0.89 that I need to try out.



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TINY wrote to KEVIN NUNN <=-

That could be my issue, I am still using the one I grabbed many years
ago, .49 I believe. I'll look for the new version and distribute it to
my machines and see if that helps.

Let us know if it did. Curiousity and all that.

Well, I am on my second packet and no crash yet. So I'll check using it
and hopefully the issue is resolved.

Kev

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Hello Kurt,

Saturday January 09 2021 07:48, you wrote to Tiny:

What do you guys do for a text editor with MultiMail? a word-wrapping,
GUI windowed text editor just doesn't seem right in context. I used to
use my old DOS editors in 32-bit XP, but can't with 64-bit Windows.

I use Nano or TSE/Pro under Windows.

Later,
Sean

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And update, since I upgraded to the lastest mmail I could find, I have had no problems with crashing or phantom processes. All is well in the QWK world again. :)

Kev

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Kevin Nunn wrote to Kevin Nunn <=-

And update, since I upgraded to the lastest mmail I could
find, I have had no problems with crashing or phantom
processes. All is well in the QWK world again. :)

The latest is 0.52 across all supported platforms. I believe I'm using the Win64 version now.

Later,
Sean


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Sean,

The latest is 0.52 across all supported platforms. I believe I'm using the Win64 version now.

Same here.

Daryl

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SEAN DENNIS wrote to KEVIN NUNN <=-

The latest is 0.52 across all supported platforms. I believe I'm using the Win64 version now.

That's the one I did switch to and everything seems stable now. Now I
have to find something else to break.

Kev


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Hello Kevin,

Saturday January 23 2021 11:08, you wrote to me:

That's the one I did switch to and everything seems stable now. Now I
have to find something else to break.

That will happen in due time. <G>

Later,
Sean

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