• Re: looking at getting No

    From Rob Mccart@618:250/1 to WARPSLIDE on Mon Mar 1 00:53:00 2021
    I got a call from Koodo out of the blue a couple of years back. They
    >offered me a plan to "win" me back. Unlimited Canada-wide minutes, unlimited
    >world-wide SMS/MMS & 10GB of LTE data for $55 /mo.

    Yes, they do keep offering deals to get you or keep you. Mine is the 5gig plan through Lucky, which is part of Bell so you get the 'good' network, and they keep offering me super deals, about half the cost of what they advertise online, from the 'proper' Bell Network, Lucky being a Prepaid plan usually
    used by people who have lousy credit and can't get a normal plan.
    But I like the unlimited data (slows down after the 5 gig) and Bell's normal plans say unlimited texting in Canada where Lucky's is world wide (you have to be in Canada though, it's not a roaming plan).

    Current offer from Bell - unlimited Talk and Text in Canada and 6 gig 4g data for $40 a month, plus an optional phone deal, basically a $600 phone over 2 years for $240.

    I'm holding on to that as long as I can. When I upgraded my phone last year
    >I told them I'm only upgrading if I can keep my same plan, which they said I
    >could.

    Yes, you have to hang onto those good deals if you can. I know a few people
    who were offered super cheap deals and now the networks are constantly trying to talk them into a new plan to get them off of those great deal plans.

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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Rob Mccart on Mon Mar 1 18:12:00 2021
    Hello Rob Mccart!

    ** On Monday 01.03.21 - 00:53, Rob Mccart wrote to WARPSLIDE:

    Current offer from Bell - unlimited Talk and Text in Canada
    and 6 gig 4g data for $40 a month, plus an optional phone
    deal, basically a $600 phone over 2 years for $240.

    Every month or so I would get a notice about Bell's $40 plan.
    The bump up to 6GB at the same luckymobile price of $40 now
    sounds good.. but the Bell plan requires that I purchase one of
    their phones? If so, no thanks.


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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Rob Mccart on Mon Mar 1 18:17:00 2021
    Hello Rob Mccart!

    ** On Monday 01.03.21 - 00:53, Rob Mccart wrote to WARPSLIDE:

    plan through Lucky, which is part of Bell so you get the
    'good' network, and they keep offering me super deals,
    about half the cost of what they advertise online, from the
    'proper' Bell Network, Lucky being a Prepaid plan usually
    used by people who have lousy credit and can't get a normal
    plan.

    I don't think it is entirely about lousy credit. The current
    $40 pre-paid plan with Lucky seems "normal" to me! :D
    Besides, I really liked the bring-your-own-device option.

    The discount services like Lucky, Chatr and Public are "self-
    serve" systems. I really liked being able to get the $10S SIM
    on my own and register on my own (for FREE).


    But I like the unlimited data (slows down after the 5 gig)

    Have you ever purchased the DataPasses? 200MB for $5.


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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to Warpslide on Tue Mar 2 21:48:00 2021
    Jay,

    I've never looked back. The only reason we still have a "landline" is
    for our alarm system. I use voip.ms and pay $0.85 /mo for the phone number and $0.009 per minute no matter if it's inbound or outbound.

    I have ADT, and they switched to a cell tower backup instead of analog.
    I no longer have an analog line, because of the POOR SERVICE and the HIGH
    COST from AT&T.

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    Watch me. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to Warpslide on Tue Mar 2 21:52:00 2021
    Jay,

    Correct, you'd still need to make sure your both your cable/DSL modem
    and ATA have power for the service to work, so I have them plugged into
    a UPS which gives them power for ~30 minutes. The alarm system has its own battery that lasts much longer than that, but our power outages are few & far between and don't generally last that long.

    That's true for my area as well...but sometimes, the outages can last
    quite awhile.

    Daryl

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  • From Warpslide@618:500/23 to Daryl Stout on Wed Mar 3 09:31:49 2021
    *** Quoting Daryl Stout from a message to Warpslide ***

    I have ADT, and they switched to a cell tower backup instead of
    analog. I no longer have an analog line, because of the POOR SERVICE
    and the HIGH COST from AT&T.

    Yeah, we tried asking if we could do the cell backup method or if they could monitor over the internet. They *could* do cell tower backup, but it can
    ONLY be used as a backup, we would still need the phone line. If we wanted
    to go that method we'd have to pay for the module and labour to install and then pay an additional cost per month for the cell connection.

    That's when I went the ATA route, it's just cheaper to have it work that way even though it's not "officially supported".

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    Watch me. <G>

    You monster! ;)


    Jay

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  • From Rob Mccart@618:250/1 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Wed Mar 3 00:25:00 2021
    Current offer from Bell - unlimited Talk and Text in Canada
    and 6 gig 4g data for $40 a month, plus an optional phone
    deal, basically a $600 phone over 2 years for $240.

    Every month or so I would get a notice about Bell's $40 plan.
    >The bump up to 6GB at the same luckymobile price of $40 now
    >sounds good.. but the Bell plan requires that I purchase one of
    >their phones? If so, no thanks.

    The last several offers I got from Bell via Lucky did not require purchasing a phone but the odd one offered a phone you could take or leave. They would probably like to talk you into a phone since this locks you into a 2 year contract unless you want to pay an inflated 'balance' left on the phone to get out of it.

    But the Bell plans, although faster data (in theory) don't offer international texting or unlimited slower data if you run out of high speed and don't want
    to purchase more at $5 per 1/2 gig if I recall correctly. The down side is Lucky is no good outside of Canada.. no roaming option.
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  • From Rob Mccart@618:250/1 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Wed Mar 3 00:40:00 2021
    Lucky being a Prepaid plan usually
    used by people who have lousy credit and can't get a normal plan.

    I don't think it is entirely about lousy credit. The current
    >$40 pre-paid plan with Lucky seems "normal" to me! :D
    >Besides, I really liked the bring-your-own-device option.

    I've been quite happy with it, other than some confusion when I moved from the $40 plan to the $50 plan for a brief time. Lost some of the data I should have gotten for auto-top-up since with the 'new plan' I had no history of auto-payment every month for the past 2 years..

    The discount services like Lucky, Chatr and Public are "self-
    >serve" systems. I really liked being able to get the $10S SIM
    >on my own and register on my own (for FREE).

    Do you mean there was no $40 Network fee to sign up? If so, I didn't know
    about that 2 years ago when I signed up. <drat>

    When I did it, due to some 'confusion' over the price of a phone I was buying, I left The Source and went to Wal-Mart and bought a better phone cheaper
    but I came back to The Source to set up the Lucky plan. They did all the work at no cost to me other than the $10 charge for the SIM card. I could have done it all at Wal-Mart but the people at The Source had spent a lot of time trying to sort the problem out so I figured they must get something for setting up
    the account and deserved at least that much for their efforts.

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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to Warpslide on Wed Mar 3 14:03:00 2021
    Jay,

    That's when I went the ATA route, it's just cheaper to have it work
    that way even though it's not "officially supported".

    Well, I think all of us are "frugal cheapskates".

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    Watch me. <G>

    You monster! ;)

    See the tagline response. <eg>

    Daryl

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  • From Warpslide@618:500/23 to Daryl Stout on Wed Mar 3 17:06:29 2021
    *** Quoting Daryl Stout from a message to Warpslide ***

    See the tagline response. <eg>

    ... I'm Dyslexia Of Borg. Prepare To Have Your Ass Laminate .

    As my co-worker used to say: "Don't threaten me with a good time!" lol

    Jay

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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to Warpslide on Wed Mar 3 23:13:00 2021
    Jay,

    See the tagline response. <eg>

    ... I'm Dyslexia Of Borg. Prepare To Have Your Ass Laminate .

    As my co-worker used to say: "Don't threaten me with a good time!"

    Different strokes for different folks. Speaking of which, the local
    hospital banned a friend of mine...the sign said "Stroke Patients Here". <G>

    ... Hey! Who took the cork off my lunch??!

    Sounds like something W.C. Fields would say. :P

    Daryl

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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Rob Mccart on Thu Mar 4 18:18:00 2021
    Hello Rob!

    ** On Wednesday 03.03.21 - 00:25, you wrote to me:

    The last several offers I got from Bell via Lucky did not
    require purchasing a phone but the odd one offered a phone
    you could take or leave. They would probably like to talk
    you into a phone since this locks you into a 2 year
    contract unless you want to pay an inflated 'balance' left
    on the phone to get out of it.

    I've never had to purchase a phone. The last one I got (a
    Blackberry) was given to me. But are they *still* charging
    inflated balances when closing a contract early? I thought
    there was a classaction that forced phone companies to stop that
    practice.

    But the Bell plans, although faster data (in theory) don't
    offer international texting or unlimited slower data if you
    run out of high speed and don't want to purchase more at $5
    per 1/2 gig if I recall correctly. The down side is Lucky
    is no good outside of Canada.. no roaming option. -+-

    Those are subtle destails, eh?

    Lucky's international text surprised me. It sounds sweet if I
    were ever to want to use it to text to foreigners outside my
    country. But SMS being completely insecure, I probably wouldn't
    use it to chat about anything important - or not at all since I
    have Telegram now.

    You almost recall correctly. The DataPass is $5/200MB at a time.

    Regarding outside Canada.. not a problem. There is like 100%
    chance that I wouldn't leave Canada any time soon.

    BUT.. I got an interesting offer in the mail today. I received
    a letter from Bell with a Multi SIM Card inside. The offer is to
    transfer one of my landlines to cell, and for $65/mo I would get
    [1] 15GB of data (throttled down after that), [2] no overage
    charges [3] unlimited Canada-wide calling and texting. Roaming
    (outside Canada) is extra.

    All for an activation fee of +$45.

    Now.. on the back of that piece of paper are "details" for the
    exceptions. The way they do it pisses me off. They have a
    whole 8"x11" sheet of paper for information and they do this:

    https://photos.kolico.ca/tmp/bell-offer.jpg

    (The thumbdrive is for a bit of scale.)

    I'm paying 2x$35 for my landlines, and I don't really use them.
    In the spring the lines almost always encounter excessive
    buzzing and noise until things dry up. Meanwhile, I have a Lucky
    account at $40/mo for 5GB.

    I don't like the arbitrary $45 fee they call activation, ($45 to
    type in some credentials that shouldn't take more than 5 minutes
    to key in?)

    Another little detail they miss in the mailing; apparently on
    their website, they have the same offer, BUT they include this:

    "Get a $100 bill credit when you bring your own phone and
    activate an eligible plan online."

    "(*) Current as of December 22, 2020. Offer valid with new
    activations on an eligible plan when you bring your own phone.
    Not eligible on tablets, Mobile Internet or IoT products. Bill
    credit is comprised of waived one-time Connection Service Fee
    ($45) and $55 bill credit, applied in one payment of $100 on the
    2nd or 3rd billing period."

    So... there is a credit of $100 when applying online, but THAT
    plan starts at $80/mo. Sheeesh.

    What to do, what to do. :/
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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Rob Mccart on Sun Mar 21 21:31:00 2021
    Hello Rob Mccart!

    ** On Wednesday 03.03.21 - 00:40, Rob Mccart wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:

    The discount services like Lucky, Chatr and Public are "self-
    serve" systems. I really liked being able to get the $10S SIM
    on my own and register on my own (for FREE).

    Do you mean there was no $40 Network fee to sign up? If so,
    I didn't know about that 2 years ago when I signed up.
    <drat>

    I noticed that many people didn't realize that too. Infact, a
    shop down the street from my shop would sell the Luckymobile
    cards (only $10), and offered to "register" people with the
    service for $45!!! ..and that's BEFORE even paying for a plan!
    The small print on the card package (as well as the Luckmobile
    website) stated that activation could be done online - that's
    what I did. Meanwhile, I think a lot of people were getting
    ripped off (and probably still are) with the $45 registration
    fee.

    When I did it, due to some 'confusion' over the price of a
    phone I was buying, I left The Source and went to Wal-Mart
    and bought a better phone cheaper but I came back to The
    Source to set up the Lucky plan. They did all the work at
    no cost to me other than the $10 charge for the SIM card. I
    could have done it all at Wal-Mart but the people at The
    Source had spent a lot of time trying to sort the problem
    out so I figured they must get something for setting up the
    account and deserved at least that much for their efforts.

    Yes.. It is cool to encounter people at the kiosks who know how
    to actually sort out a problem.

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  • From Rob Mccart@618:250/1 to CAPTAIN TROY TEMPEST on Thu Mar 25 00:42:00 2021
    What I am getting lately are offers from Bell at $40 Cdn with unlimited Canada wide talk and text plus 6 gig of data, usually with the option of
    a medium decent phone ($450?) for an extra $10 a month over 2 years.

    do not take Fibe phone will not work with modem diaLUP

    Thanks for the information. For the moment I'm using Data through my Cell
    Phone and it will be a long time probably before I can afford Fibe in any case.. B)

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